1 00:00:25,240 --> 00:00:07,500 [Music] 2 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:28,130 blast-off your mother machine there I 3 00:00:38,420 --> 00:00:35,850 feel like if I see last night hello 4 00:00:40,729 --> 00:00:38,430 everybody this is Ryan the original 5 00:00:44,380 --> 00:00:40,739 outlaw of the airwaves bringing you 6 00:00:47,180 --> 00:00:44,390 another episode of hero paranormal 7 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:47,190 coming to you from the Mojave Desert 8 00:00:54,229 --> 00:00:51,210 south of area 51 a desolate place known 9 00:00:55,090 --> 00:00:54,239 as Sin City still the brightest place on 10 00:00:57,319 --> 00:00:55,100 the planet 11 00:00:59,959 --> 00:00:57,329 illuminated beyond the doubt higher than 12 00:01:01,099 --> 00:00:59,969 anywhere else but nobody around it's 13 00:01:04,490 --> 00:01:01,109 been pretty creepy out here 14 00:01:09,020 --> 00:01:04,500 it's creepy everywhere this cove in 15 00:01:13,390 --> 00:01:09,030 nineteen coronavirus scare is affecting 16 00:01:17,210 --> 00:01:13,400 everyone I think and it's also affecting 17 00:01:21,050 --> 00:01:17,220 UFO disclosure which is sort of what the 18 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:21,060 podcast is about today before we get to 19 00:01:25,700 --> 00:01:23,490 that if you haven't been to hero 20 00:01:27,890 --> 00:01:25,710 paranormal com definitely check it out 21 00:01:32,749 --> 00:01:27,900 it's a way to support the podcast you 22 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:32,759 can do so by following links to become a 23 00:01:38,179 --> 00:01:35,130 patron you can do so for a recurring 24 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:38,189 payment of $1.00 that is our lowest here 25 00:01:43,370 --> 00:01:39,810 it's 1 or 2 bucks whatever you want to 26 00:01:45,289 --> 00:01:43,380 give really we haven't got a higher tier 27 00:01:50,030 --> 00:01:45,299 than that yet but I plan on it 28 00:01:51,620 --> 00:01:50,040 having a more premium experience just 29 00:01:55,460 --> 00:01:51,630 working on what I can do to make that 30 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to the Stars 44 00:02:47,690 --> 00:02:45,860 Pentagon scenario because it's there's a 45 00:02:49,460 --> 00:02:47,700 lot of moving parts it's not it's not 46 00:02:51,410 --> 00:02:49,470 just one thing there's there's a lot 47 00:02:54,610 --> 00:02:51,420 going on and that's why we're bringing 48 00:02:58,670 --> 00:02:54,620 the guests that I chose for today who is 49 00:03:00,680 --> 00:02:58,680 without a doubt in my opinion one of the 50 00:03:02,930 --> 00:03:00,690 most knowledgeable people about all the 51 00:03:04,310 --> 00:03:02,940 working parts involved we're even going 52 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:04,320 to get into things like the Wilson 53 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:09,690 document how well whether or not it's 54 00:03:17,030 --> 00:03:12,690 real whether meta materials are being 55 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:17,040 stored in a facility of private 56 00:03:22,430 --> 00:03:19,050 contractors possibly some here in Las 57 00:03:23,660 --> 00:03:22,440 Vegas truth is it really doesn't matter 58 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:23,670 where it is stored 59 00:03:30,110 --> 00:03:27,330 what matters is what it is and it is a 60 00:03:33,199 --> 00:03:30,120 meta material it's possibly something 61 00:03:35,150 --> 00:03:33,209 that is not from this planet a lot of 62 00:03:37,130 --> 00:03:35,160 disagreement on that there's there's 63 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:37,140 like I said there's so many moving parts 64 00:03:42,410 --> 00:03:38,610 and that's why we've got the man with 65 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:42,420 the plan best website on the planet to 66 00:03:46,910 --> 00:03:44,610 one-stop shop and get all the 67 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:46,920 information you usually need to follow 68 00:03:53,510 --> 00:03:49,290 up with this stuff and that is silver 69 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:53,520 record comm by now you know who he is he 70 00:03:58,670 --> 00:03:55,650 needs no introduction he's amazing in 71 00:04:01,550 --> 00:03:58,680 every shape and form one of my favorite 72 00:04:05,390 --> 00:04:01,560 guests Danny Silva welcome to the hero 73 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:05,400 paranormal podcast great to talk to you 74 00:04:10,370 --> 00:04:08,010 oh that's great man 75 00:04:12,199 --> 00:04:10,380 how you doing I'm right now you know 76 00:04:14,479 --> 00:04:12,209 there's so much going on there's there's 77 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:14,489 there's so much news there's UFO 78 00:04:20,659 --> 00:04:18,570 disclosure there is co vid 19 there's 79 00:04:24,219 --> 00:04:20,669 other stuff going on there's quarantine 80 00:04:26,659 --> 00:04:24,229 it's almost too much to handle however 81 00:04:27,350 --> 00:04:26,669 you seem to be handling it just plant 82 00:04:30,469 --> 00:04:27,360 how you been 83 00:04:32,510 --> 00:04:30,479 hold nut I've been good I've been 84 00:04:35,390 --> 00:04:32,520 quarantined I'm forgetting my dad so 85 00:04:38,270 --> 00:04:35,400 come on I insist to be writing or 86 00:04:40,270 --> 00:04:38,280 falling leaves and enough finally the 87 00:04:43,850 --> 00:04:40,280 COS on these kind of breakthrough you're 88 00:04:47,420 --> 00:04:43,860 the poet new cycle which we really 89 00:04:50,629 --> 00:04:47,430 didn't think is possible right now true 90 00:04:52,339 --> 00:04:50,639 true and it is I guess it's Beltane 91 00:04:55,399 --> 00:04:52,349 happy Beltane I guess I should tell you 92 00:04:58,760 --> 00:04:55,409 May 1st which was technically yesterday 93 00:05:01,309 --> 00:04:58,770 but huh I didn't know this I found out 94 00:05:03,619 --> 00:05:01,319 today this is crazy man like you know 95 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:03,629 like Mayday Mayday like when a plane is 96 00:05:10,309 --> 00:05:07,770 going down they or that came from Mayday 97 00:05:14,059 --> 00:05:10,319 May 1st or happy Beltane all kinds of 98 00:05:19,420 --> 00:05:14,069 weird occult stuff tied to it and what's 99 00:05:21,050 --> 00:05:19,430 strange is I guess Utah decided to just 100 00:05:22,820 --> 00:05:21,060 just go for it 101 00:05:24,950 --> 00:05:22,830 they just kind of like went for it today 102 00:05:27,559 --> 00:05:24,960 so they're just like doing a soft open I 103 00:05:30,769 --> 00:05:27,569 guess on the state so yeah Utah May 104 00:05:32,659 --> 00:05:30,779 first opening up a soft open on the 105 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:32,669 state opening everything up seeing how 106 00:05:39,350 --> 00:05:36,330 it goes we will see if this is a good 107 00:05:41,809 --> 00:05:39,360 move or not keep it close I yeah yeah 108 00:05:44,570 --> 00:05:41,819 yeah and they're saying that about 10 11 109 00:05:48,649 --> 00:05:44,580 people will die a day as a consequence 110 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:48,659 but we will see how that plays out but 111 00:05:52,100 --> 00:05:50,370 speak into Utah we'll get to that 112 00:05:54,140 --> 00:05:52,110 there's some weird stuff going on there 113 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:54,150 but I'm sure have you been watching the 114 00:06:00,379 --> 00:05:57,690 show at all the skinwalker show ok 115 00:06:04,879 --> 00:06:00,389 official name secrets of skinwalker 116 00:06:07,430 --> 00:06:04,889 ranch on the History Channel it is by 117 00:06:11,719 --> 00:06:07,440 Prometheus Entertainment great group of 118 00:06:14,809 --> 00:06:11,729 people for sure and I just think it's 119 00:06:17,570 --> 00:06:14,819 cool that it is finally getting the 120 00:06:19,219 --> 00:06:17,580 attention it deserves no matter what you 121 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:19,229 want to say about the show a lot of 122 00:06:25,820 --> 00:06:22,050 people are nitpicking but it is giving 123 00:06:29,089 --> 00:06:25,830 it attention yes that's awesome man ok 124 00:06:31,219 --> 00:06:29,099 cool talk about that for sure I wanted 125 00:06:34,430 --> 00:06:31,229 to talk to you about the craziest thing 126 00:06:36,230 --> 00:06:34,440 we had he had some of the most wild UFO 127 00:06:38,510 --> 00:06:36,240 disclosure that I've ever seen or 128 00:06:41,540 --> 00:06:38,520 expected to see in my entire lifetime 129 00:06:43,610 --> 00:06:41,550 right and a lot of people missed 130 00:06:45,140 --> 00:06:43,620 it just kind of it just kind of like 131 00:06:46,790 --> 00:06:45,150 slipped through the cracks what are your 132 00:06:50,900 --> 00:06:46,800 thoughts on that Danny what did you 133 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:50,910 what's going on with that well it's been 134 00:06:55,070 --> 00:06:53,130 kind of waves of the Pentagon 135 00:06:55,999 --> 00:06:55,080 announcements from Susan gold the 136 00:06:58,790 --> 00:06:56,009 spokesperson 137 00:07:01,850 --> 00:06:58,800 she's kind of taken over all of the you 138 00:07:04,070 --> 00:07:01,860 ap commenting from the government 139 00:07:05,900 --> 00:07:04,080 spokespeople at this point because 140 00:07:07,730 --> 00:07:05,910 before that it was coming from a lot of 141 00:07:11,390 --> 00:07:07,740 other people and they were contradicting 142 00:07:13,370 --> 00:07:11,400 themselves and and it just wasn't 143 00:07:15,770 --> 00:07:13,380 organized so they kind of put a lid on 144 00:07:19,969 --> 00:07:15,780 it and put a bottom that ball and now 145 00:07:22,460 --> 00:07:19,979 only Susan go it was commenting she has 146 00:07:24,980 --> 00:07:22,470 consistently given false information or 147 00:07:26,629 --> 00:07:24,990 incorrect information or spun 148 00:07:29,870 --> 00:07:26,639 information however you want to put it 149 00:07:32,749 --> 00:07:29,880 but at the same time when she speaks and 150 00:07:35,779 --> 00:07:32,759 it hits the news like this it's it's 151 00:07:37,909 --> 00:07:35,789 great for the subject so well people 152 00:07:40,129 --> 00:07:37,919 that follow closely can are able to spot 153 00:07:42,230 --> 00:07:40,139 the misinformation for example she's 154 00:07:46,129 --> 00:07:42,240 saying that when the videos released 155 00:07:48,469 --> 00:07:46,139 were released in 2017 and 2018 they 156 00:07:52,129 --> 00:07:48,479 weren't authorized but we know from 157 00:07:55,820 --> 00:07:52,139 basically in writing from the weird 158 00:07:59,450 --> 00:07:55,830 emails between the Elizondo and dr. 159 00:08:03,860 --> 00:07:59,460 which is the agency that could preach 160 00:08:04,939 --> 00:08:03,870 them that the world so it's weird and I 161 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:04,949 don't know if she's coming missing word 162 00:08:08,959 --> 00:08:06,330 but and I don't know why they're 163 00:08:12,260 --> 00:08:08,969 sticking to that part of it and then I 164 00:08:16,029 --> 00:08:12,270 view them releasing these videos now I 165 00:08:19,010 --> 00:08:16,039 kind of covered it back a little bit 166 00:08:20,839 --> 00:08:19,020 also one thing that's odd is a Dave lady 167 00:08:22,999 --> 00:08:20,849 a friend of mine who ran the metadata 168 00:08:25,219 --> 00:08:23,009 video hoping that they released is 169 00:08:27,980 --> 00:08:25,229 actually the Youtube version so it's not 170 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:27,990 even like a you know inspected 171 00:08:33,190 --> 00:08:30,330 behind-the-scenes like Navy version like 172 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:33,200 the resume of these over here on YouTube 173 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:35,370 another thing that's she's saying that 174 00:08:40,010 --> 00:08:37,050 she's really sticking to her guns on is 175 00:08:41,639 --> 00:08:40,020 that the videos are longer and there's a 176 00:08:43,469 --> 00:08:41,649 multiple multiple 177 00:08:45,780 --> 00:08:43,479 witnesses and people involve you the 178 00:08:47,309 --> 00:08:45,790 subject also been told off the record 179 00:08:49,109 --> 00:08:47,319 that they are longer I mean why would 180 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:49,119 they have to stop recording at that 181 00:08:53,999 --> 00:08:51,490 point I guess you could maybe say that 182 00:08:55,590 --> 00:08:54,009 those videos have been deleted since and 183 00:08:57,329 --> 00:08:55,600 that the ones where she currently has 184 00:08:59,009 --> 00:08:57,339 we're not like her but they were 185 00:09:03,199 --> 00:08:59,019 definitely or when they order captured 186 00:09:05,970 --> 00:09:03,209 the videos with that said though this 187 00:09:07,499 --> 00:09:05,980 little bit took the news every time this 188 00:09:10,079 --> 00:09:07,509 happens has been happening maybe like 189 00:09:12,359 --> 00:09:10,089 three or four times now it's kind of 190 00:09:15,389 --> 00:09:12,369 been a new wave in the media and exposes 191 00:09:18,269 --> 00:09:15,399 you know us or civilians as I call them 192 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:18,279 sometimes to simulus us on it was you 193 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:20,410 know what happened first in 2017 I was 194 00:09:26,129 --> 00:09:22,689 you to media push at the time a tip was 195 00:09:29,129 --> 00:09:26,139 also you know came out from the shadows 196 00:09:30,809 --> 00:09:29,139 we found out about a check and that was 197 00:09:33,269 --> 00:09:30,819 the gimbal and tick-tock video that was 198 00:09:36,290 --> 00:09:33,279 in December of 2017 and then it was 199 00:09:39,239 --> 00:09:36,300 March 2018 legal fast video was released 200 00:09:40,799 --> 00:09:39,249 and the do fast in the gimbal a post and 201 00:09:44,100 --> 00:09:40,809 the fleet attack video is from the West 202 00:09:49,019 --> 00:09:44,110 Coast Susan go saying that the prompt 203 00:09:50,669 --> 00:09:49,029 for still unidentified and which was not 204 00:09:52,530 --> 00:09:50,679 necessarily a big deal to the UFO 205 00:09:56,129 --> 00:09:52,540 community that it became a big deal kind 206 00:09:59,519 --> 00:09:56,139 of like this and and then it became a 207 00:10:02,970 --> 00:09:59,529 big media wave again and then now 208 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:02,980 recently just last week I was at this 209 00:10:09,419 --> 00:10:06,730 week this week you know the Navy we 210 00:10:11,519 --> 00:10:09,429 released the videos and really doesn't 211 00:10:14,189 --> 00:10:11,529 mean a whole lot I mean we already had 212 00:10:17,519 --> 00:10:14,199 the videos just formulate from a UFO 213 00:10:20,669 --> 00:10:17,529 community perspective but when I said it 214 00:10:22,379 --> 00:10:20,679 hit the news big-time the guy legs it's 215 00:10:23,999 --> 00:10:22,389 been picked up everywhere all across the 216 00:10:25,439 --> 00:10:24,009 world a lot of people are hearing about 217 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:25,449 it from the first time a lot of people 218 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:27,610 don't know that the views have been out 219 00:10:32,299 --> 00:10:30,370 for years and they're saying out about 220 00:10:35,789 --> 00:10:32,309 it for the first time and it's great and 221 00:10:38,309 --> 00:10:35,799 so we'll take that I mean where's can't 222 00:10:40,109 --> 00:10:38,319 be choosers and this is big publicity 223 00:10:42,059 --> 00:10:40,119 for the subject and keep there like 224 00:10:43,259 --> 00:10:42,069 learning about the videos for the first 225 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:43,269 time they're learning about the subject 226 00:10:47,220 --> 00:10:45,490 for their first time learning about to 227 00:10:49,079 --> 00:10:47,230 the Stars Academy possibly for the first 228 00:10:52,350 --> 00:10:49,089 time so these are all great form of 229 00:10:53,370 --> 00:10:52,360 movement and despite the contradictions 230 00:10:57,270 --> 00:10:53,380 and kind of fibs 231 00:11:00,030 --> 00:10:57,280 don't waste time there and they're 232 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:00,040 permitting the subject yeah it is almost 233 00:11:04,380 --> 00:11:02,290 like its back for the first time is what 234 00:11:07,830 --> 00:11:04,390 it really feels like because I've had 235 00:11:10,560 --> 00:11:07,840 all kinds of people who didn't know 236 00:11:12,180 --> 00:11:10,570 about it reach out to me I liked I liked 237 00:11:13,980 --> 00:11:12,190 some of the terms you used 238 00:11:16,950 --> 00:11:13,990 speaking of Susan going back to that 239 00:11:19,050 --> 00:11:16,960 real quick Danny you say what kind of 240 00:11:20,850 --> 00:11:19,060 stuff do we know what kind of stuff 241 00:11:22,090 --> 00:11:20,860 she's consistently given info about 242 00:11:26,900 --> 00:11:22,100 that's false 243 00:11:36,270 --> 00:11:34,020 basically the program yes he denied I 244 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:36,280 was gonna run a program she's denied 245 00:11:43,130 --> 00:11:39,130 that years were supposed to be released 246 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:43,140 every statement that she makes is like 247 00:11:49,110 --> 00:11:46,090 something for skeptics and the burgers 248 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:49,120 to latch on to and she's contradicted 249 00:11:53,310 --> 00:11:51,250 other spokespeople other spokespeople 250 00:11:56,220 --> 00:11:53,320 said that Alessandra did have duties 251 00:11:57,900 --> 00:11:56,230 while he was there you know you know she 252 00:12:01,470 --> 00:11:57,910 may be missing words because a tip 253 00:12:02,970 --> 00:12:01,480 switched robos out and we originally 254 00:12:05,460 --> 00:12:02,980 using the DIA defense intelligence 255 00:12:08,490 --> 00:12:05,470 agency and then I mention office under 256 00:12:10,140 --> 00:12:08,500 the Secretary of Defense and from what I 257 00:12:11,930 --> 00:12:10,150 understand it's kind of muddy that's 258 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:11,940 from what I understand is Lou ran it for 259 00:12:20,970 --> 00:12:18,250 OSD map dia so and then we know that the 260 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:20,980 funny one out from us a paycheck that 261 00:12:27,060 --> 00:12:24,730 basically no continue that after that so 262 00:12:29,610 --> 00:12:27,070 is he only talking about before the 263 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:29,620 funding ran out because then it got more 264 00:12:33,990 --> 00:12:31,930 funding after all is she not privy to it 265 00:12:37,050 --> 00:12:34,000 and so it's just all this little 266 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:37,060 stainless he makes there's just it's 267 00:12:43,230 --> 00:12:39,490 kind of going against what we know and 268 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:43,240 what witnesses are telling us and it's 269 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:45,250 been unfortunate and especially like I 270 00:12:49,590 --> 00:12:47,170 said selves we were getting more 271 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:49,600 information from more people and they 272 00:12:52,620 --> 00:12:50,650 were realizing that they were 273 00:12:55,260 --> 00:12:52,630 contradicting themselves like they don't 274 00:12:57,690 --> 00:12:55,270 know what's happening and then you know 275 00:12:58,380 --> 00:12:57,700 see they put a stop to that and now it's 276 00:13:01,280 --> 00:12:58,390 other 277 00:13:04,370 --> 00:13:01,290 UFE statements are coming from her only 278 00:13:06,980 --> 00:13:04,380 in her defense you know maybe she's 279 00:13:09,710 --> 00:13:06,990 or maybe she doesn't like a variable to 280 00:13:11,900 --> 00:13:09,720 be the case it could be people above her 281 00:13:15,020 --> 00:13:11,910 that have it out for Amazon dough or 282 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:15,030 don't you know one Clary on the subject 283 00:13:18,890 --> 00:13:16,890 telling her to say certain things you 284 00:13:20,750 --> 00:13:18,900 know not very well tutorial she could 285 00:13:22,580 --> 00:13:20,760 just be following orders and it's not 286 00:13:26,090 --> 00:13:22,590 personal with her but the fact that 287 00:13:28,910 --> 00:13:26,100 matter is her name's on it and and it's 288 00:13:32,330 --> 00:13:28,920 just incorrect info or expiring so or 289 00:13:34,730 --> 00:13:32,340 its she's making a comment I'm a certain 290 00:13:36,830 --> 00:13:34,740 thing and then she stayed at broadly and 291 00:13:38,540 --> 00:13:36,840 they also could be part of useful 292 00:13:40,250 --> 00:13:38,550 community's fault because they're 293 00:13:42,860 --> 00:13:40,260 spending for comments as well as her 294 00:13:46,340 --> 00:13:42,870 spending them so it's been kind of a 295 00:13:48,260 --> 00:13:46,350 struggle over it's been like a year at 296 00:13:51,620 --> 00:13:48,270 least now but she's been making these 297 00:13:53,660 --> 00:13:51,630 comments that we just you know we really 298 00:13:57,830 --> 00:13:53,670 took didn't hand and they're probably 299 00:13:59,960 --> 00:13:57,840 saying it did and it was a portfolio it 300 00:14:01,820 --> 00:13:59,970 wasn't a giant program towards the end 301 00:14:05,210 --> 00:14:01,830 there and we know if he was still doing 302 00:14:07,430 --> 00:14:05,220 on now just has a different name to do 303 00:14:10,100 --> 00:14:07,440 witness reports and then Thomas from 304 00:14:12,560 --> 00:14:10,110 Elizondo and other people I'm not to 305 00:14:14,090 --> 00:14:12,570 mention it on identify the TV show they 306 00:14:16,190 --> 00:14:14,100 actually sat down with the parent a tip 307 00:14:17,630 --> 00:14:16,200 guys and spoke to them although they 308 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:17,640 went on camera their faces a little 309 00:14:22,310 --> 00:14:20,010 blurry but yeah it's been a struggle 310 00:14:24,230 --> 00:14:22,320 with her and um and now she says that 311 00:14:28,190 --> 00:14:24,240 she's coming out with another statement 312 00:14:31,340 --> 00:14:28,200 about a tip soon so we're just you know 313 00:14:33,710 --> 00:14:31,350 waiting to see what is gonna hightail is 314 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:33,720 is she going to be truthful or is it 315 00:14:38,660 --> 00:14:36,090 going to be more of the same also she 316 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:38,670 had promised that to be coming out with 317 00:14:45,260 --> 00:14:41,970 a statement statement because there's 318 00:14:46,820 --> 00:14:45,270 been so much she divert from some of 319 00:14:49,100 --> 00:14:46,830 this great reporting from Popular 320 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:49,110 Mechanics to meet God and other people 321 00:14:53,830 --> 00:14:51,810 that have gotten so many witnesses and 322 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:53,840 so much information and data 323 00:14:58,700 --> 00:14:55,890 contradicting what she is saying and 324 00:15:01,670 --> 00:14:58,710 also to the world away you know she is 325 00:15:03,740 --> 00:15:01,680 ducking him she isn't really commenting 326 00:15:06,620 --> 00:15:03,750 you know professionally like this she 327 00:15:07,970 --> 00:15:06,630 won't answer people back and things like 328 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:07,980 that and these are major journalists 329 00:15:11,780 --> 00:15:10,290 that deserve you know comments and 330 00:15:12,730 --> 00:15:11,790 deserve to be in contact with 331 00:15:14,930 --> 00:15:12,740 spokespeople 332 00:15:16,550 --> 00:15:14,940 so she kind of had her back against the 333 00:15:17,810 --> 00:15:16,560 wall and she was supposed to be coming a 334 00:15:20,900 --> 00:15:17,820 little stable for a while 335 00:15:23,180 --> 00:15:20,910 months some people are speculating world 336 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:23,190 we're trying to hide coronavirus and 337 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:24,930 that's why that came out with visa 338 00:15:28,070 --> 00:15:26,610 he also things I'm not really I think 339 00:15:29,540 --> 00:15:28,080 these things have been on tack these 340 00:15:31,580 --> 00:15:29,550 comments from the Pentagon I've been on 341 00:15:33,110 --> 00:15:31,590 deck for a while and she finally decide 342 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:33,120 to come out with them it wasn't that 343 00:15:37,550 --> 00:15:34,650 they're trying to prolong or anything 344 00:15:39,410 --> 00:15:37,560 again exactly and a lot of these things 345 00:15:43,100 --> 00:15:39,420 they seem like they're kind of coming 346 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:43,110 back for the first time the the Wilson 347 00:15:48,350 --> 00:15:45,810 documents as well they kind of seem like 348 00:15:51,230 --> 00:15:48,360 they're back and they are in the 349 00:15:52,910 --> 00:15:51,240 forefront it's almost it's almost like 350 00:15:54,590 --> 00:15:52,920 there's so much going on and it may be 351 00:15:56,450 --> 00:15:54,600 it's just one of those things it's 352 00:16:00,080 --> 00:15:56,460 usually like that you know a lot of 353 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:00,090 things happen all at once and the origin 354 00:16:03,470 --> 00:16:02,130 of that I don't know but Elizondo I 355 00:16:08,090 --> 00:16:03,480 think he's been doing a great job I 356 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:08,100 heard the interestingly enough his 357 00:16:13,390 --> 00:16:11,370 interview oh I think I was I can't 358 00:16:15,770 --> 00:16:13,400 remember where I was but I actually 359 00:16:17,180 --> 00:16:15,780 heard it in Spanish I found it in 360 00:16:19,010 --> 00:16:17,190 Spanish first and I heard it and it was 361 00:16:22,070 --> 00:16:19,020 a great interview but then I heard it in 362 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:22,080 English and it was even better but what 363 00:16:27,590 --> 00:16:24,930 are your thoughts on going back to the 364 00:16:31,130 --> 00:16:27,600 Wilson docks where do you think that is 365 00:16:35,710 --> 00:16:31,140 where's that headed I was a story in a 366 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:35,720 small way in those days but according to 367 00:16:40,550 --> 00:16:38,970 thanks to a researcher archivist 368 00:16:43,580 --> 00:16:40,560 investigative journalist friend of mine 369 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:43,590 Juliana Marinovich she actually found 370 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:46,770 the documents online so we had them for 371 00:16:51,890 --> 00:16:50,010 months before everyone else and I didn't 372 00:16:53,300 --> 00:16:51,900 leak them out I knew that they would 373 00:16:56,870 --> 00:16:53,310 come out eventually because they were on 374 00:16:58,490 --> 00:16:56,880 Reddit and we had heard about them from 375 00:16:59,420 --> 00:16:58,500 great cameras that I think Emily was 376 00:17:02,480 --> 00:16:59,430 claiming that they were going to close 377 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:02,490 disclosure and then we came across them 378 00:17:06,980 --> 00:17:05,010 and we and we you know we had to start 379 00:17:08,929 --> 00:17:06,990 I basically contacted every source I 380 00:17:10,460 --> 00:17:08,939 have everyone I know in the world and I 381 00:17:12,470 --> 00:17:10,470 was asking them about them behind the 382 00:17:14,630 --> 00:17:12,480 scenes everyone was telling me that they 383 00:17:16,460 --> 00:17:14,640 were real behind the scenes or 99% of 384 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:16,470 everyone with somebody real and that 385 00:17:18,530 --> 00:17:17,970 doesn't mean the information in them 386 00:17:20,810 --> 00:17:18,540 Israel 387 00:17:22,490 --> 00:17:20,820 it means the documents actually happened 388 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:22,500 Erik Davis actually interview you know 389 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:25,170 those things that day I do believe that 390 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:26,850 to be true this from comments from 391 00:17:30,950 --> 00:17:28,650 important people that 392 00:17:33,980 --> 00:17:30,960 proof of it now I don't but it's just my 393 00:17:36,050 --> 00:17:33,990 opinion anyway so we so I had that 394 00:17:38,210 --> 00:17:36,060 backing for months before it came out 395 00:17:41,300 --> 00:17:38,220 some people were going back after they 396 00:17:42,770 --> 00:17:41,310 found out about that you know it was my 397 00:17:45,530 --> 00:17:42,780 choice I knew he was going to come out 398 00:17:47,090 --> 00:17:45,540 if I'm free if I felt like I was the 399 00:17:49,070 --> 00:17:47,100 only way for it to come out then I would 400 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:49,080 have felt differently and maybe I would 401 00:17:52,460 --> 00:17:50,970 wake up myself but since it was on the 402 00:17:54,290 --> 00:17:52,470 internet already I knew it was just a 403 00:17:56,510 --> 00:17:54,300 matter of time and frankly I didn't want 404 00:17:58,580 --> 00:17:56,520 to burn Eric Davis it didn't I didn't 405 00:18:01,730 --> 00:17:58,590 feel like it was my place to air out 406 00:18:04,580 --> 00:18:01,740 Eric Davis's you know laundry basically 407 00:18:07,700 --> 00:18:04,590 and and he's done a lot for the subject 408 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:07,710 and over the years he's a legend smell 409 00:18:12,110 --> 00:18:09,690 respect them daily so I didn't want to 410 00:18:14,270 --> 00:18:12,120 you know put him in hot water and put 411 00:18:16,370 --> 00:18:14,280 this out and my friends that had it all 412 00:18:18,290 --> 00:18:16,380 so they basically read this that we all 413 00:18:20,180 --> 00:18:18,300 decided the same thing if this wasn't a 414 00:18:20,870 --> 00:18:20,190 place to do it you really come out 415 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:20,880 eventually 416 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:22,890 if a year's house and it didn't come out 417 00:18:28,010 --> 00:18:25,410 and we were going to kind of rethink it 418 00:18:29,330 --> 00:18:28,020 and maybe leak it or something like that 419 00:18:31,970 --> 00:18:29,340 but you know we didn't even have to 420 00:18:34,130 --> 00:18:31,980 consider that ugly because we knew it 421 00:18:35,900 --> 00:18:34,140 would come out and it did it came out 422 00:18:37,580 --> 00:18:35,910 you know we were thinking it would come 423 00:18:38,180 --> 00:18:37,590 out every day every day that wasn't 424 00:18:39,980 --> 00:18:38,190 coming out 425 00:18:42,470 --> 00:18:39,990 we were amazed because it was a sitting 426 00:18:44,060 --> 00:18:42,480 right there so it took a couple months 427 00:18:46,910 --> 00:18:44,070 but like every single day were like okay 428 00:18:47,900 --> 00:18:46,920 this is the day it's because it was 429 00:18:49,910 --> 00:18:47,910 sitting on the Internet 430 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:49,920 but um so then it finally did get 431 00:18:53,330 --> 00:18:51,570 noticed Richard Dolan started reporting 432 00:18:58,070 --> 00:18:53,340 that and I think it became like this 433 00:18:59,840 --> 00:18:58,080 huge story and ethology um I had so many 434 00:19:02,660 --> 00:18:59,850 people off the record tell me that they 435 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:02,670 think it's real and but again it doesn't 436 00:19:06,140 --> 00:19:04,530 mean that the information that's 437 00:19:08,450 --> 00:19:06,150 contained and it is accurate because 438 00:19:08,930 --> 00:19:08,460 Wilson was just relaying what he was 439 00:19:14,780 --> 00:19:08,940 told 440 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:14,790 accurate then I did he sat down with 441 00:19:18,530 --> 00:19:16,050 Eric Davis I think it was like in that 442 00:19:20,930 --> 00:19:18,540 car in the back of the car yes I believe 443 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:20,940 he did and it gives us a lot to 444 00:19:28,190 --> 00:19:23,970 contemplate and from what we know about 445 00:19:29,420 --> 00:19:28,200 our ads um and in other places like 446 00:19:31,190 --> 00:19:29,430 Rocky where they're hiding this 447 00:19:32,690 --> 00:19:31,200 information you know allegedly and 448 00:19:36,050 --> 00:19:32,700 probably more than allegedly because 449 00:19:37,970 --> 00:19:36,060 it's everyone was saying that um I 450 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:37,980 actually say this about subjects of 451 00:19:41,610 --> 00:19:40,170 municipal surely all these other groups 452 00:19:43,770 --> 00:19:41,620 multi groups are same 453 00:19:45,930 --> 00:19:43,780 even the groups that don't like each 454 00:19:48,270 --> 00:19:45,940 other stay in the same thing like 455 00:19:49,890 --> 00:19:48,280 they're all saying that some of the co 456 00:19:51,900 --> 00:19:49,900 so subjective may be some of the CFO of 457 00:19:54,780 --> 00:19:51,910 material and technology and things like 458 00:19:57,120 --> 00:19:54,790 that is hidden in private contractors 459 00:19:59,250 --> 00:19:57,130 that way it's hidden away from FOIA and 460 00:20:01,980 --> 00:19:59,260 places like that so everyone is saying 461 00:20:04,260 --> 00:20:01,990 that across the board so I have to give 462 00:20:08,070 --> 00:20:04,270 it credence and I think it's relevant 463 00:20:10,020 --> 00:20:08,080 and I think it's true and that was clear 464 00:20:12,780 --> 00:20:10,030 with the Rossum documents it was really 465 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:12,790 clear the thing that was scary 466 00:20:17,610 --> 00:20:15,730 but the lesson documents was that he 467 00:20:19,290 --> 00:20:17,620 wasn't able to access the stuff and he 468 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:19,300 was maybe he didn't have a need to know 469 00:20:23,610 --> 00:20:20,770 but he was definitely a really important 470 00:20:24,990 --> 00:20:23,620 person in the government they also told 471 00:20:29,430 --> 00:20:25,000 him basically if he wanted to be 472 00:20:31,650 --> 00:20:29,440 promoted so industries about wrongdoing 473 00:20:35,430 --> 00:20:31,660 in my mind I mean they're basically 474 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:35,440 holding promotions over his head to get 475 00:20:40,230 --> 00:20:38,410 him to stop talking about it and but but 476 00:20:43,740 --> 00:20:40,240 at the same time I see that status 477 00:20:44,940 --> 00:20:43,750 document using a cross exposure and I 478 00:20:47,130 --> 00:20:44,950 knew that the reports that it would 479 00:20:48,630 --> 00:20:47,140 cause the schools are immediately or 480 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:48,640 inaccurate that was my opinion at least 481 00:20:52,230 --> 00:20:50,650 I couldn't tell the future but that's 482 00:20:53,910 --> 00:20:52,240 what I was thinking because Wilson 483 00:20:57,660 --> 00:20:53,920 basically we had to come forward and 484 00:21:01,500 --> 00:20:57,670 talk about it even if Eric Davis came 485 00:21:04,740 --> 00:21:01,510 forward and said it was denied it but he 486 00:21:05,970 --> 00:21:04,750 has to kind of watch what he says that's 487 00:21:07,590 --> 00:21:05,980 just kind of an anecdote 488 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:07,600 so really Admiral Wilson would have to 489 00:21:13,100 --> 00:21:09,850 come out and say was real and he had 490 00:21:15,330 --> 00:21:13,110 already been asked about it over time 491 00:21:18,450 --> 00:21:15,340 previous decade and we knew he wasn't 492 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:18,460 going to come out unless he does now I 493 00:21:22,710 --> 00:21:20,890 just don't think that document is going 494 00:21:25,620 --> 00:21:22,720 to do what we wanted to do and what we 495 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:25,630 think it might do and he's denying it 496 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:28,570 he's not talking to reporters and stuff 497 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:30,730 like that so I disagreed with him and I 498 00:21:33,990 --> 00:21:32,170 turned out to be right and it didn't 499 00:21:36,419 --> 00:21:34,000 cause disclosure like people were 500 00:21:38,150 --> 00:21:36,429 claiming and it's really amazing and it 501 00:21:41,070 --> 00:21:38,160 gives us some really great insight into 502 00:21:44,250 --> 00:21:41,080 the inner workings and what's going on 503 00:21:46,799 --> 00:21:44,260 and some of basically corrupt ways that 504 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:46,809 things are handled and how even these 505 00:21:50,730 --> 00:21:48,730 Admirals are getting upset because 506 00:21:53,490 --> 00:21:50,740 they're not getting access to what they 507 00:21:54,180 --> 00:21:53,500 want to get access to know now yeah I 508 00:21:55,590 --> 00:21:54,190 just didn't 509 00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:55,600 disclosure there's other things in it 510 00:22:01,049 --> 00:21:58,090 that are pretty interesting but I take 511 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:01,059 them 10 of us the opinion as whoever was 512 00:22:06,659 --> 00:22:03,850 talking to Wilson it's their opinion and 513 00:22:09,570 --> 00:22:06,669 it was necessarily a solid fact I think 514 00:22:10,860 --> 00:22:09,580 you even intimated that there's like no 515 00:22:14,190 --> 00:22:10,870 abductions up there only done by 516 00:22:16,980 --> 00:22:14,200 military to trick people you know that's 517 00:22:18,539 --> 00:22:16,990 really um controversial and a lot of 518 00:22:22,470 --> 00:22:18,549 people wouldn't agree with that so you 519 00:22:25,379 --> 00:22:22,480 know it's just an inside work and uh and 520 00:22:26,970 --> 00:22:25,389 you know this might have you know if I 521 00:22:28,769 --> 00:22:26,980 can even listen would come out and maybe 522 00:22:30,210 --> 00:22:28,779 he will maybe when he gets already 523 00:22:32,009 --> 00:22:30,220 experimental talk about the course of 524 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:32,019 that clip at this point I just don't 525 00:22:37,740 --> 00:22:34,690 think he's motivated to do so yeah it is 526 00:22:40,019 --> 00:22:37,750 one of those documents this document in 527 00:22:41,789 --> 00:22:40,029 my opinion I'm with oh I'm with you my 528 00:22:45,049 --> 00:22:41,799 ma'am the minute I hear that Eric Davis 529 00:22:47,700 --> 00:22:45,059 is involved with or a part of a project 530 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:47,710 legitimacy just won a front seat he's 531 00:22:50,549 --> 00:22:49,090 the kind of guy you want working on 532 00:22:52,649 --> 00:22:50,559 these things for sure 533 00:22:55,669 --> 00:22:52,659 I hear Eric Davis's name involvement 534 00:22:58,220 --> 00:22:55,679 with the project I look at the data I'm 535 00:23:00,299 --> 00:22:58,230 immediately convinced that it's truthful 536 00:23:02,310 --> 00:23:00,309 he's done so much for the community 537 00:23:04,310 --> 00:23:02,320 you're right I think it's interesting 538 00:23:07,049 --> 00:23:04,320 that you guys knew it would come out 539 00:23:09,810 --> 00:23:07,059 eventually this whole document leaking 540 00:23:12,509 --> 00:23:09,820 is it's it's huge 541 00:23:14,430 --> 00:23:12,519 I think Dolan talks about it as the 542 00:23:17,249 --> 00:23:14,440 biggest biggest thing ever 543 00:23:20,610 --> 00:23:17,259 in ufology and what's interesting about 544 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:20,620 it is it a lot of times people get 545 00:23:24,570 --> 00:23:22,450 freaked out about like the accuracy like 546 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:24,580 you were saying is this is this genuine 547 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:27,850 is this exactly you know is everything 548 00:23:33,060 --> 00:23:30,490 adding up and they are forgetting that 549 00:23:37,820 --> 00:23:33,070 in many realms the government acts with 550 00:23:41,279 --> 00:23:37,830 a certainty and an ability of using 551 00:23:44,279 --> 00:23:41,289 compartmentalization and information in 552 00:23:46,590 --> 00:23:44,289 a way that nobody else does so you could 553 00:23:48,330 --> 00:23:46,600 be working on a project but you have no 554 00:23:52,019 --> 00:23:48,340 origin where that project came from you 555 00:23:53,759 --> 00:23:52,029 have no idea where it's headed and it 556 00:23:55,769 --> 00:23:53,769 could be speculation but a lot of people 557 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:55,779 freak out because oh this person says 558 00:24:01,200 --> 00:23:57,490 this this person says that but yet they 559 00:24:03,690 --> 00:24:01,210 don't have all the pieces and of course 560 00:24:06,690 --> 00:24:03,700 they're not handed really any pieces it 561 00:24:07,500 --> 00:24:06,700 is scary that the access is so need to 562 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:07,510 know 563 00:24:14,370 --> 00:24:09,850 with Eric Davis I'm just like man how 564 00:24:15,810 --> 00:24:14,380 many NDA's is he under yeah and I'm sure 565 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:15,820 he got into some hot water with this 566 00:24:22,590 --> 00:24:19,810 thing mate and you know I hate to hear 567 00:24:24,930 --> 00:24:22,600 that because you know he's done so much 568 00:24:27,330 --> 00:24:24,940 for the topic and for the community but 569 00:24:29,430 --> 00:24:27,340 at the same time it was great good to 570 00:24:33,060 --> 00:24:29,440 see it I think it was valuable really 571 00:24:35,010 --> 00:24:33,070 valuable in that regard but yeah I'm 572 00:24:38,940 --> 00:24:35,020 pretty sure Eric Davis has gone through 573 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:38,950 some some troubles since that leak and 574 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:41,290 you know there's more new documents 575 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:43,210 there's a few others that came out you 576 00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:44,530 know reportedly they were from Edgar 577 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:48,130 Mitchell uh the state or some of them 578 00:24:49,770 --> 00:24:49,450 actually people he was still alive I 579 00:24:52,590 --> 00:24:49,780 think 580 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:52,600 but I'll there's a lot of area documents 581 00:24:56,970 --> 00:24:54,010 from women there and they have an 582 00:24:59,010 --> 00:24:56,980 optimal obviously this thing is pretty 583 00:25:00,960 --> 00:24:59,020 simple so you know we can understand why 584 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:00,970 they haven't released it when you say 585 00:25:07,230 --> 00:25:03,490 it's from Edgar Mitchell's estate that's 586 00:25:08,970 --> 00:25:07,240 really interesting and it was it you 587 00:25:12,990 --> 00:25:08,980 said it has been published or it's going 588 00:25:15,990 --> 00:25:13,000 to be published or the state basically 589 00:25:16,950 --> 00:25:16,000 had a lot of that there was 30 days and 590 00:25:18,650 --> 00:25:16,960 you know I don't know this for a fact 591 00:25:21,060 --> 00:25:18,660 the story goes that once he passed away 592 00:25:23,340 --> 00:25:21,070 you know he had all these papers and 593 00:25:25,230 --> 00:25:23,350 documents and his family didn't know 594 00:25:27,510 --> 00:25:25,240 what to do with them all there was all 595 00:25:28,980 --> 00:25:27,520 this correspondence you know we're kind 596 00:25:31,170 --> 00:25:28,990 of missing out now because we're doing 597 00:25:33,030 --> 00:25:31,180 everything electronically whereas back 598 00:25:34,380 --> 00:25:33,040 then these guys are writing letters you 599 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:34,390 know paper letters and they're sitting 600 00:25:40,020 --> 00:25:37,930 in the box and they're easier to uncover 601 00:25:42,690 --> 00:25:40,030 you know years later for historical 602 00:25:45,780 --> 00:25:42,700 purposes but yeah the story goes that 603 00:25:47,940 --> 00:25:45,790 his family you know found you know all 604 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:47,950 this stuff they didn't want to do that 605 00:25:53,850 --> 00:25:51,490 and somehow I go to other people's hands 606 00:25:56,730 --> 00:25:53,860 and the story also those that it's not 607 00:25:58,830 --> 00:25:56,740 illegal that it came out sensitive 608 00:26:02,250 --> 00:25:58,840 information the none of this is like 609 00:26:04,860 --> 00:26:02,260 classified or anything like that that 610 00:26:06,660 --> 00:26:04,870 technically so there's an illegal that I 611 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:06,670 came out but yeah it supposedly came 612 00:26:13,380 --> 00:26:09,010 from it astronaut Edgar Mitchell it was 613 00:26:15,570 --> 00:26:13,390 a big beautiful advocate and he was you 614 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:15,580 know involved with a lot of stuff going 615 00:26:17,830 --> 00:26:16,330 on back there 616 00:26:20,379 --> 00:26:17,840 and supposedly came 617 00:26:22,959 --> 00:26:20,389 his belongings basically after he passed 618 00:26:25,509 --> 00:26:22,969 away you know that's really cool and I 619 00:26:27,339 --> 00:26:25,519 don't doubt it for a minute it is from 620 00:26:29,499 --> 00:26:27,349 historical data perspectives it's 621 00:26:32,529 --> 00:26:29,509 amazing the sensitive stuff you can come 622 00:26:34,180 --> 00:26:32,539 across and like you said if it was in 623 00:26:37,659 --> 00:26:34,190 other people's hands it might be 624 00:26:40,209 --> 00:26:37,669 classified but it's still not it's it's 625 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:40,219 okay that it's out in the public a lot 626 00:26:45,969 --> 00:26:43,129 of people are really really aiming high 627 00:26:47,469 --> 00:26:45,979 with their FOIA --iz and the requests 628 00:26:49,389 --> 00:26:47,479 their Freedom of Information Act 629 00:26:52,029 --> 00:26:49,399 requests it's getting a lot of coverage 630 00:26:55,389 --> 00:26:52,039 but I'm not seeing anything quite like 631 00:26:59,109 --> 00:26:55,399 the Wilson letter yeah and you know that 632 00:27:03,820 --> 00:26:59,119 into government the government form that 633 00:27:06,129 --> 00:27:03,830 was from Eric Davis and he he wrote it 634 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:06,139 down and as a member of mids so he 635 00:27:10,659 --> 00:27:07,570 wasn't doing that as a government 636 00:27:12,430 --> 00:27:10,669 employee so none of that is like this 637 00:27:15,849 --> 00:27:12,440 not a government document is not subject 638 00:27:17,889 --> 00:27:15,859 to FOIA it's private and there has been 639 00:27:20,469 --> 00:27:17,899 some question about what Wilson was 640 00:27:23,169 --> 00:27:20,479 supposed to report on his end because he 641 00:27:26,079 --> 00:27:23,179 was the government employee but I don't 642 00:27:27,190 --> 00:27:26,089 know too much about that but it sounded 643 00:27:30,789 --> 00:27:27,200 basically like an off-the-record 644 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:30,799 discussion between Wilson and Vegas but 645 00:27:33,849 --> 00:27:32,330 yeah I heard Davis was not a girlfriend 646 00:27:36,239 --> 00:27:33,859 employer at the time so doesn't I keep 647 00:27:38,619 --> 00:27:36,249 explaining that anyways it is in its 648 00:27:41,169 --> 00:27:38,629 bachelors to the discovery science which 649 00:27:42,759 --> 00:27:41,179 wasn't a government organization there 650 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:42,769 was a private organization nothing is 651 00:27:49,629 --> 00:27:47,330 for Apple with any of that and and even 652 00:27:51,369 --> 00:27:49,639 with that said once this stuff is hidden 653 00:27:54,549 --> 00:27:51,379 in private contractors you cancel yeah 654 00:27:57,190 --> 00:27:54,559 it either so you know before you guys 655 00:27:59,200 --> 00:27:57,200 are doing great work but they have a lot 656 00:28:00,729 --> 00:27:59,210 of they have a deck stacked against them 657 00:28:03,639 --> 00:28:00,739 basically and a lot of different ways 658 00:28:05,619 --> 00:28:03,649 yeah that's it's neat that it's like 659 00:28:07,450 --> 00:28:05,629 well I don't know I mean not that this 660 00:28:08,950 --> 00:28:07,460 stuff can be subject to FOIA but it's 661 00:28:12,279 --> 00:28:08,960 neat that you had such an integral part 662 00:28:14,709 --> 00:28:12,289 of this Danny you're so so involved the 663 00:28:18,159 --> 00:28:14,719 interesting thing I think is the meta 664 00:28:21,279 --> 00:28:18,169 materials and how UFO pieces debris 665 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:21,289 whatever you want to call them I I know 666 00:28:26,950 --> 00:28:25,129 for one in my mind without a doubt you 667 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:26,960 know if somebody put a gun to my head I 668 00:28:31,630 --> 00:28:29,690 think I could lead them where I think 669 00:28:34,150 --> 00:28:31,640 they are but 670 00:28:37,180 --> 00:28:34,160 it is not something that I comment 671 00:28:39,100 --> 00:28:37,190 publicly about but at the same time I 672 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:39,110 believe they're real and I know that a 673 00:28:43,810 --> 00:28:42,170 lot of people don't I know that it's 674 00:28:46,510 --> 00:28:43,820 it's controversial what are your 675 00:28:48,490 --> 00:28:46,520 thoughts on these that's another subject 676 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:48,500 where all these groups across the board 677 00:28:54,549 --> 00:28:51,530 are a same thing they're all saying that 678 00:28:58,030 --> 00:28:54,559 there's pieces of UFOs I American 679 00:29:01,060 --> 00:28:58,040 locations also reported locations of 680 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:01,070 crashes you know supposedly we can read 681 00:29:04,990 --> 00:29:03,250 about them in different birds and 682 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:05,000 different places or I don't know 683 00:29:08,169 --> 00:29:06,410 actually public where people say they 684 00:29:10,750 --> 00:29:08,179 found myself in those crashes but I 685 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:10,760 definitely think it's true and I think 686 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:12,770 different pieces floating around not 687 00:29:16,900 --> 00:29:14,090 only in the government but in private 688 00:29:21,070 --> 00:29:16,910 ads for a really long time decades and 689 00:29:23,470 --> 00:29:21,080 decades but yet everyone is saying it 690 00:29:24,789 --> 00:29:23,480 across the board I didn't accurate and 691 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:24,799 you know I have to take it extremely 692 00:29:29,110 --> 00:29:27,530 seriously not only that but we have you 693 00:29:30,970 --> 00:29:29,120 know the crater with the government and 694 00:29:33,159 --> 00:29:30,980 to the Stars Academy right now or 695 00:29:34,419 --> 00:29:33,169 they're studying pieces there's all 696 00:29:36,970 --> 00:29:34,429 these other pieces being analyzed 697 00:29:39,970 --> 00:29:36,980 Jacques Frere doing a lot of work with 698 00:29:41,289 --> 00:29:39,980 that behind the scenes we're trying to 699 00:29:42,430 --> 00:29:41,299 go the science around it and get it 700 00:29:44,799 --> 00:29:42,440 peer-reviewed and everything like that 701 00:29:46,299 --> 00:29:44,809 but even in the new season that when 702 00:29:48,460 --> 00:29:46,309 identified coming out there to the Stars 703 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:48,470 Academy it's going to show them I think 704 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:49,610 it's going to show them picking up 705 00:29:54,490 --> 00:29:52,130 pieces I can Central America South 706 00:29:56,580 --> 00:29:54,500 America and just other places but 707 00:29:59,230 --> 00:29:56,590 there's all those crashes in New Mexico 708 00:30:00,909 --> 00:29:59,240 in the 40s I don't know that every 709 00:30:04,330 --> 00:30:00,919 single one of them was real but it 710 00:30:06,669 --> 00:30:04,340 definitely seems like some of the the 711 00:30:10,890 --> 00:30:06,679 crashes were real brain can't actually 712 00:30:14,140 --> 00:30:10,900 released some photos recently of the 713 00:30:17,110 --> 00:30:14,150 some pieces and according to 714 00:30:19,270 --> 00:30:17,120 descriptions of the pieces these looked 715 00:30:21,669 --> 00:30:19,280 like they said the very least they had 716 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:21,679 kind of they were metallic and they had 717 00:30:27,850 --> 00:30:24,650 like a frog skin type of looks to them 718 00:30:29,500 --> 00:30:27,860 which is pretty weird and a little even 719 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:29,510 had a triangle on it with a circle in 720 00:30:31,270 --> 00:30:30,890 the middle of triangle which was really 721 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:31,280 crazy 722 00:30:35,950 --> 00:30:34,010 and they'd had like bolt holes or 723 00:30:38,140 --> 00:30:35,960 something in it that looked like but I 724 00:30:40,630 --> 00:30:38,150 don't know for a fact that one is real 725 00:30:44,049 --> 00:30:40,640 but it really does fit the bill on the 726 00:30:45,830 --> 00:30:44,059 frog skin description from American book 727 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:45,840 and 728 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:49,570 so that's but maybe you know that's not 729 00:30:53,580 --> 00:30:51,250 something Mexico where she is supposedly 730 00:30:56,279 --> 00:30:53,590 waiting so you know a lot of things head 731 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:56,289 up like that and but yeah I just think 732 00:31:00,480 --> 00:30:57,610 some of the stuff is going to have been 733 00:31:01,860 --> 00:31:00,490 coming back and not less I do wonder you 734 00:31:03,659 --> 00:31:01,870 know will we be able to convince 735 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:03,669 skeptics whether they're gonna just come 736 00:31:08,850 --> 00:31:06,970 up with some other thing that says that 737 00:31:10,649 --> 00:31:08,860 I mean I don't know if we're going to be 738 00:31:11,730 --> 00:31:10,659 able to prove that it's alien we're 739 00:31:14,370 --> 00:31:11,740 going to be able to read between the 740 00:31:17,130 --> 00:31:14,380 lines and know that you know it's not 741 00:31:20,010 --> 00:31:17,140 man-made but I don't know if science at 742 00:31:23,370 --> 00:31:20,020 large will accept this that's definitely 743 00:31:25,049 --> 00:31:23,380 dr. Gary Nolan is working on you know he 744 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:25,059 was basically trying to prove it in 745 00:31:31,470 --> 00:31:27,730 little ways here and there and then 746 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:31,480 eventually show them the big picture and 747 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:33,250 they're not gonna have any other choice 748 00:31:37,260 --> 00:31:35,770 that's his boy think it's basically to 749 00:31:39,299 --> 00:31:37,270 do it like that to prove something 750 00:31:40,740 --> 00:31:39,309 really here something right over and 751 00:31:42,570 --> 00:31:40,750 that have been eventually it builds the 752 00:31:43,649 --> 00:31:42,580 whole house and then he's going to show 753 00:31:45,299 --> 00:31:43,659 them the house at the end and they're 754 00:31:45,930 --> 00:31:45,309 not going to go to deny that there's a 755 00:31:47,850 --> 00:31:45,940 house there 756 00:31:50,730 --> 00:31:47,860 so I think that's that's how you do it 757 00:31:52,409 --> 00:31:50,740 in the science realm I'm not sure how 758 00:31:55,340 --> 00:31:52,419 the stories Academy is going to do about 759 00:31:58,260 --> 00:31:55,350 it they may peer review it they may not 760 00:31:59,639 --> 00:31:58,270 but simple fact that the army and other 761 00:32:03,750 --> 00:31:59,649 people are interested in what they have 762 00:32:06,450 --> 00:32:03,760 I think is very telling and you know how 763 00:32:09,570 --> 00:32:06,460 people think you can send this off again 764 00:32:10,889 --> 00:32:09,580 I like a like a test like a medical 765 00:32:13,919 --> 00:32:10,899 testing you get it back in the weekend 766 00:32:17,100 --> 00:32:13,929 but that's not really the case there's a 767 00:32:18,870 --> 00:32:17,110 lot of different instrumentation that's 768 00:32:21,450 --> 00:32:18,880 involved and other different ways to 769 00:32:23,250 --> 00:32:21,460 test it and it takes a lot of money and 770 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:23,260 that's why to the Stars Academy 771 00:32:27,539 --> 00:32:25,090 you know signed with the government to 772 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:27,549 do it it's not I was gonna get swallowed 773 00:32:34,620 --> 00:32:30,610 up they are in control of what's going 774 00:32:36,389 --> 00:32:34,630 on and if it was being sawed up the 775 00:32:38,370 --> 00:32:36,399 crater wouldn't even be public in the 776 00:32:41,010 --> 00:32:38,380 first place occur to agreement with the 777 00:32:42,029 --> 00:32:41,020 army it would have been black budget 778 00:32:46,380 --> 00:32:42,039 stuff and we would have never heard 779 00:32:49,380 --> 00:32:46,390 about it anyways and also don't be 780 00:32:53,820 --> 00:32:49,390 surprised if it comes out to the Stars 781 00:32:55,379 --> 00:32:53,830 Academy has also entered other contracts 782 00:32:58,159 --> 00:32:55,389 with the government I think that's going 783 00:33:00,349 --> 00:32:58,169 to eventually come out if 784 00:33:02,479 --> 00:33:00,359 guess I'm just guessing but that's from 785 00:33:03,830 --> 00:33:02,489 you know I think that that's gonna 786 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:03,840 happen it's gonna be another one 787 00:33:07,489 --> 00:33:05,730 not just the crater that'll be unrelated 788 00:33:09,799 --> 00:33:07,499 to the crater so that's exciting then 789 00:33:11,690 --> 00:33:09,809 the guy who is involved with the UFO 790 00:33:14,570 --> 00:33:11,700 company basically an aerospace slash 791 00:33:16,489 --> 00:33:14,580 tech not technology sauce UFO company 792 00:33:19,909 --> 00:33:16,499 and to me it just gives credence for the 793 00:33:21,710 --> 00:33:19,919 subject and it kind of you know it just 794 00:33:22,940 --> 00:33:21,720 makes it really important and it's 795 00:33:25,810 --> 00:33:22,950 something we could take the skeptics say 796 00:33:28,399 --> 00:33:25,820 hey why is the army and interested them 797 00:33:30,859 --> 00:33:28,409 now there's a bit of results yet maybe 798 00:33:32,899 --> 00:33:30,869 we should which I'm talking to too 799 00:33:34,940 --> 00:33:32,909 quickly and assuming that the results 800 00:33:37,609 --> 00:33:34,950 are going to come back positive but I'm 801 00:33:39,409 --> 00:33:37,619 hoping they are and it's also great that 802 00:33:41,599 --> 00:33:39,419 we don't have all over a swarm basket so 803 00:33:43,820 --> 00:33:41,609 even if the to the Stars Academy stuff 804 00:33:46,249 --> 00:33:43,830 doesn't pan out then we have getting 805 00:33:47,989 --> 00:33:46,259 home and joyfully working on super 806 00:33:50,239 --> 00:33:47,999 exciting like you said the way these 807 00:33:53,629 --> 00:33:50,249 little pieces these breadcrumbs are 808 00:33:56,509 --> 00:33:53,639 coming together many people are claiming 809 00:33:58,310 --> 00:33:56,519 that there's artifacts are real and 810 00:33:59,149 --> 00:33:58,320 we're hearing about them in other places 811 00:34:02,269 --> 00:33:59,159 as well 812 00:34:05,570 --> 00:34:02,279 I think the TTS a stuff is pretty neat 813 00:34:07,820 --> 00:34:05,580 with unidentified I like the science 814 00:34:11,569 --> 00:34:07,830 angle how things are being peer reviewed 815 00:34:13,099 --> 00:34:11,579 and the agreement with the army I mean 816 00:34:14,869 --> 00:34:13,109 this is this is huge 817 00:34:16,879 --> 00:34:14,879 this is exactly what they promised isn't 818 00:34:23,930 --> 00:34:16,889 it yeah really and you know people are 819 00:34:25,129 --> 00:34:23,940 getting you know that that the military 820 00:34:27,379 --> 00:34:25,139 is involved but it's like what do you 821 00:34:28,879 --> 00:34:27,389 want they have the most resources you 822 00:34:30,289 --> 00:34:28,889 know to the third Academy is a private 823 00:34:32,510 --> 00:34:30,299 company they don't have unlimited 824 00:34:34,669 --> 00:34:32,520 resources as far as phones and things 825 00:34:38,329 --> 00:34:34,679 like this so then we could clean up the 826 00:34:40,069 --> 00:34:38,339 people and those are patriots so if some 827 00:34:42,230 --> 00:34:40,079 of this technology does go so you have 828 00:34:44,210 --> 00:34:42,240 you know the Armed Services bring people 829 00:34:46,460 --> 00:34:44,220 home bring the troops home you know I 830 00:34:48,649 --> 00:34:46,470 think they're on board with that I 831 00:34:50,930 --> 00:34:48,659 understand what I make maybe he wouldn't 832 00:34:53,599 --> 00:34:50,940 agree with it but that's just the fact 833 00:34:57,589 --> 00:34:53,609 that southern operating and the create 834 00:34:59,000 --> 00:34:57,599 an agreement makes it so basically the 835 00:35:00,799 --> 00:34:59,010 government can use the technology but 836 00:35:02,690 --> 00:35:00,809 also to the Stars can use it so it's 837 00:35:05,059 --> 00:35:02,700 time to the stars whether they want to 838 00:35:08,490 --> 00:35:05,069 talk about it openly and I believe that 839 00:35:11,100 --> 00:35:08,500 they do and and that was another point 840 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:11,110 their company and having investments was 841 00:35:16,140 --> 00:35:14,770 to be transparent they haven't been as 842 00:35:19,770 --> 00:35:16,150 transparent as some people would like 843 00:35:22,830 --> 00:35:19,780 but to me they have been and this is 844 00:35:24,210 --> 00:35:22,840 this exciting stash and you know people 845 00:35:26,010 --> 00:35:24,220 are saying that oh will they're just an 846 00:35:28,650 --> 00:35:26,020 entertainment company well not really 847 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:28,660 they have a science you know contact 848 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:29,890 with the government right now I mean 849 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:31,330 that's obvious it's provable 850 00:35:36,990 --> 00:35:35,770 and socially you know incredibility to 851 00:35:39,510 --> 00:35:37,000 the subject and you know that's always 852 00:35:41,730 --> 00:35:39,520 been whining so I want and that's what 853 00:35:42,990 --> 00:35:41,740 we want another activist and we've 854 00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:43,000 delivered on it and they're going to 855 00:35:47,310 --> 00:35:45,250 continue delivering on it they are 856 00:35:49,500 --> 00:35:47,320 diversifying and doing other things in 857 00:35:50,790 --> 00:35:49,510 order to get revenue for their company 858 00:35:53,670 --> 00:35:50,800 but they're a private company and they 859 00:35:55,230 --> 00:35:53,680 need revenue streams so I'm not 860 00:35:56,820 --> 00:35:55,240 surprised whether and I'm not upset 861 00:36:00,150 --> 00:35:56,830 about it they just came out with this 862 00:36:03,090 --> 00:36:00,160 true clear technology which is basically 863 00:36:05,790 --> 00:36:03,100 like electronic billboards attach the 864 00:36:07,020 --> 00:36:05,800 charts of other things but you know it's 865 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:07,030 going to be a revenue stream for them 866 00:36:11,070 --> 00:36:08,610 and that's what they ate but the AL 867 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:11,080 declared is exciting and I'm excited to 868 00:36:15,330 --> 00:36:12,970 hear about any other contracts that they 869 00:36:18,510 --> 00:36:15,340 might enter yeah I think the contracts 870 00:36:21,330 --> 00:36:18,520 are amazing and it's it's really cool 871 00:36:24,180 --> 00:36:21,340 that and it's big money these contracts 872 00:36:27,030 --> 00:36:24,190 are huge money and a lot of people like 873 00:36:28,770 --> 00:36:27,040 you said they give it so this tastes 874 00:36:30,780 --> 00:36:28,780 fuller I don't I'm not quite sure what 875 00:36:32,460 --> 00:36:30,790 to call it but let's face it folks when 876 00:36:34,620 --> 00:36:32,470 it comes down to it people get angry 877 00:36:36,150 --> 00:36:34,630 about oh you know this guy's got too 878 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:36,160 much money or that guy's got too much 879 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:39,130 money well in these particular these 880 00:36:42,950 --> 00:36:40,930 scientific games it really is what 881 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:42,960 they're playing is like very expensive 882 00:36:48,020 --> 00:36:45,970 highly funded can go on for years and 883 00:36:51,210 --> 00:36:48,030 years and they're just money-grubbing 884 00:36:54,510 --> 00:36:51,220 projects and you know you have to have 885 00:36:56,850 --> 00:36:54,520 big money players involved or these 886 00:36:59,040 --> 00:36:56,860 projects don't really even scratch the 887 00:37:01,380 --> 00:36:59,050 surface so it's hard to like really hate 888 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:01,390 these big money players and you know I 889 00:37:05,550 --> 00:37:03,130 know a lot of people are hating on the 890 00:37:08,010 --> 00:37:05,560 new owner of skinwalker ranch because 891 00:37:09,810 --> 00:37:08,020 he's obviously wealthy and the show 892 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:09,820 makes that apparent a lot of people 893 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:11,770 hated on Bigelow because he was 894 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:15,610 obviously wealthy and but they're just 895 00:37:21,510 --> 00:37:17,290 human beings like you and I and they 896 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:21,520 make mistakes and big big condolences 897 00:37:24,839 --> 00:37:22,210 actually to 898 00:37:27,720 --> 00:37:24,849 the Bigelow family for the loss of Diane 899 00:37:29,849 --> 00:37:27,730 Bigelow that she did so much for at 900 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:29,859 least here in Vegas she's like an icon 901 00:37:34,170 --> 00:37:32,170 with the Smith Center and all the things 902 00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:34,180 she did for the Las Vegas community 903 00:37:39,510 --> 00:37:36,730 Diane Bigelow very big deal here in Las 904 00:37:41,670 --> 00:37:39,520 Vegas so condolences the Bigelow family 905 00:37:44,460 --> 00:37:41,680 yeah they're just people so I know a lot 906 00:37:47,790 --> 00:37:44,470 of people are hating on it and I need to 907 00:37:52,950 --> 00:37:47,800 ask you before I get too out on a limb 908 00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:52,960 on that about the the frog skin and I 909 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:54,730 was going to ask you about American 910 00:37:59,300 --> 00:37:56,890 cosmic anyway so it's actually a perfect 911 00:38:02,220 --> 00:37:59,310 kind of segue to get into that Danny 912 00:38:04,349 --> 00:38:02,230 American cosmic is a great book I highly 913 00:38:07,410 --> 00:38:04,359 recommend everybody get a copy give it a 914 00:38:12,359 --> 00:38:07,420 read it's worth having an opinion about 915 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:12,369 and interesting the more strands off of 916 00:38:18,150 --> 00:38:15,010 that that you follow you'll find that 917 00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:18,160 they add up and not only do they add up 918 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:21,250 but it's it's it's kind of unnerving 919 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:23,170 isn't it I mean there's some reality to 920 00:38:29,910 --> 00:38:28,330 all this but I'm kind of you know I've 921 00:38:32,220 --> 00:38:29,920 been doing this your first uh for a 922 00:38:35,130 --> 00:38:32,230 while and I'm kind of immune to a lot of 923 00:38:38,820 --> 00:38:35,140 the things that are weirder but I'm it's 924 00:38:40,470 --> 00:38:38,830 great you know not only are they 925 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:40,480 studying pieces in that book I mean 926 00:38:44,430 --> 00:38:41,770 that's actually another group that study 927 00:38:47,849 --> 00:38:44,440 pieces we had a you know one in ballet 928 00:38:52,230 --> 00:38:47,859 and we had a $2.00 Academy and then we 929 00:38:54,410 --> 00:38:52,240 had this alias Tyler character from the 930 00:38:57,109 --> 00:38:54,420 book that's supposedly studying pieces 931 00:38:59,609 --> 00:38:57,119 and not only that but he's creating 932 00:39:03,270 --> 00:38:59,619 medical technology and other technology 933 00:39:04,829 --> 00:39:03,280 according to the book which is debaters 934 00:39:06,420 --> 00:39:04,839 and you know since it's an alias of 935 00:39:09,750 --> 00:39:06,430 unproven you can't prove it 936 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:09,760 so it's okay to data that aspect or what 937 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:11,530 I think the recording syllabic is 938 00:39:15,810 --> 00:39:13,770 creating medical technologies also 939 00:39:19,010 --> 00:39:15,820 necessary with the pieces that doing 940 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:19,020 other things kind of getting that 941 00:39:23,310 --> 00:39:21,490 inspiration for maybe non-human 942 00:39:25,170 --> 00:39:23,320 intelligence and things like this but 943 00:39:29,359 --> 00:39:25,180 the book is amazing and and I like to 944 00:39:32,730 --> 00:39:29,369 focus specifically on when her and and 945 00:39:33,240 --> 00:39:32,740 the other two people went to the crash 946 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:33,250 site 947 00:39:37,020 --> 00:39:34,690 I think that's the most amazing part of 948 00:39:38,490 --> 00:39:37,030 the book they talked about the frogs can 949 00:39:40,410 --> 00:39:38,500 you know the metamaterials they're just 950 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:40,420 for the cultural materials whatever you 951 00:39:45,030 --> 00:39:41,650 want to call them they're really really 952 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:45,040 amazing it's a great story and justice 953 00:39:49,290 --> 00:39:47,530 here in the book the story of how they 954 00:39:52,770 --> 00:39:49,300 went there and there's this real 955 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:52,780 eye-opening and interesting and but yeah 956 00:39:56,730 --> 00:39:54,490 the frog skin is panning out I mean now 957 00:39:59,790 --> 00:39:56,740 we're seeing pictures of frog skin metal 958 00:40:02,370 --> 00:39:59,800 you know the the science and studies 959 00:40:04,350 --> 00:40:02,380 haven't came back on it but now we 960 00:40:07,260 --> 00:40:04,360 actually have pictures of log skin metal 961 00:40:08,790 --> 00:40:07,270 so you know it's really cool and there's 962 00:40:09,990 --> 00:40:08,800 other descriptions of pieces too like 963 00:40:12,900 --> 00:40:10,000 honeycomb and things like that 964 00:40:15,210 --> 00:40:12,910 um I believe but um this is really 965 00:40:17,460 --> 00:40:15,220 interesting in that book you know it was 966 00:40:20,190 --> 00:40:17,470 put my favorite yellow book it's just 967 00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:20,200 reads really easy it's a real fun read 968 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:23,110 and those couple chapters on Tyler and 969 00:40:30,210 --> 00:40:26,530 James are just really amazing diana is a 970 00:40:32,790 --> 00:40:30,220 real nice person too hey I believe a lot 971 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:32,800 of what she says um there's always 972 00:40:37,710 --> 00:40:35,410 politics behind the scenes and and and 973 00:40:39,950 --> 00:40:37,720 things like that but so take away from 974 00:40:44,490 --> 00:40:39,960 the book is that it's really great and 975 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:44,500 and is really believable and I think now 976 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:47,050 with some of the pictures and things 977 00:40:51,420 --> 00:40:48,970 like that and from all these other 978 00:40:54,410 --> 00:40:51,430 studies of metamaterials that are above 979 00:40:57,900 --> 00:40:54,420 ground we're kind of able to look 980 00:40:59,940 --> 00:40:57,910 Penjing yeah and there's a lot of like 981 00:41:01,920 --> 00:40:59,950 everything kind of ties together the 982 00:41:05,130 --> 00:41:01,930 idea is I'm glad that you kind of went 983 00:41:07,710 --> 00:41:05,140 into Tyler a little bit because if I'm 984 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:07,720 not mistaken there's a lot of 985 00:41:16,140 --> 00:41:10,930 coincidences with Tyler Durden and from 986 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:16,150 Fight Club and it's interesting that 987 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:17,770 this this guy worked for the space 988 00:41:22,290 --> 00:41:20,770 program claimed to be absorbing the 989 00:41:24,690 --> 00:41:22,300 emanations of strange and powerful 990 00:41:26,130 --> 00:41:24,700 machines altering the frequency of his 991 00:41:27,570 --> 00:41:26,140 body and making him receptive to 992 00:41:29,340 --> 00:41:27,580 communications and non-human 993 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:29,350 intelligence let's just face it the guy 994 00:41:34,770 --> 00:41:31,050 was in places normal people weren't and 995 00:41:37,020 --> 00:41:34,780 he was in those places often so I could 996 00:41:38,850 --> 00:41:37,030 kind of buy that he did other things 997 00:41:41,370 --> 00:41:38,860 that were really interesting like sleep 998 00:41:43,950 --> 00:41:41,380 and sunbathe frequently I mean it all 999 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:43,960 makes sense with biorhythms but what's 1000 00:41:46,980 --> 00:41:45,850 interesting is I'm a member of this 1001 00:41:48,660 --> 00:41:46,990 Masonic research 1002 00:41:50,580 --> 00:41:48,670 group a lot of people claim it's like 1003 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:50,590 old loominatee type stuff it's not it's 1004 00:41:57,030 --> 00:41:52,690 just kind of like a scholarly type thing 1005 00:42:00,060 --> 00:41:57,040 and they delved into go figure Tyler 1006 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:00,070 Durden and that character or persona as 1007 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:02,290 it relates to masonry and they were 1008 00:42:08,970 --> 00:42:04,450 connecting a lot of very interesting 1009 00:42:12,510 --> 00:42:08,980 dots I was blown away and needless to 1010 00:42:16,070 --> 00:42:12,520 say the Fight Club motif and the Tyler 1011 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:16,080 Durden character that of this 1012 00:42:22,350 --> 00:42:18,570 larger-than-life character who's really 1013 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:22,360 not you at all it's the opposite of you 1014 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:26,290 or your your alter ego but it goes into 1015 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:29,290 this and brings in the topic of UFOs 1016 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:32,770 there's a lot going on here and I was 1017 00:42:37,260 --> 00:42:34,330 just dumbfounded pretty amazing 1018 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:37,270 synchronicity in an area that I really 1019 00:42:41,730 --> 00:42:39,610 didn't expect are you kidding me I'm 1020 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:41,740 sitting here not wanting to say a word 1021 00:42:48,210 --> 00:42:45,010 about Basilica or American cosmic but 1022 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:48,220 I'm thinking this is exactly the kind of 1023 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:49,930 stuff that they're talking about and 1024 00:42:53,910 --> 00:42:52,090 where it comes in to the space program 1025 00:42:55,170 --> 00:42:53,920 is where I'm blown away have you been 1026 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:55,180 blown away by any of the connections 1027 00:42:59,430 --> 00:42:57,130 you've made in that yeah and I won't 1028 00:43:02,160 --> 00:42:59,440 allow the leads as well as a lot of 1029 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:02,170 other people we kind of walked the line 1030 00:43:11,010 --> 00:43:08,530 of rumor we airing out people's personal 1031 00:43:12,930 --> 00:43:11,020 business and we shouldn't be because 1032 00:43:16,859 --> 00:43:12,940 they used aliases in the book so we have 1033 00:43:21,900 --> 00:43:16,869 to be respectful of those aliases and 1034 00:43:26,970 --> 00:43:21,910 not to kind of cool but some of it I 1035 00:43:28,740 --> 00:43:26,980 think is more provable I guess than 1036 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:28,750 other parts other parts is kind of we 1037 00:43:34,140 --> 00:43:31,810 just have to take the word on it when I 1038 00:43:35,609 --> 00:43:34,150 asked her about so many things I'm 1039 00:43:37,530 --> 00:43:35,619 always asking services and talking to 1040 00:43:39,270 --> 00:43:37,540 people not over and over surgeries and 1041 00:43:41,460 --> 00:43:39,280 everything and that's the case with a 1042 00:43:43,220 --> 00:43:41,470 lot of subjects sort of it's also the 1043 00:43:45,690 --> 00:43:43,230 case of American housing stuff however 1044 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:45,700 there's also a ton of people that agree 1045 00:43:49,109 --> 00:43:47,770 with everything in there I'm that's just 1046 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:49,119 me looking at it from a citizen 1047 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:51,130 journalists aspect you know trying to 1048 00:43:56,849 --> 00:43:54,330 vet stories and things like that and 1049 00:44:00,510 --> 00:43:56,859 some of the stuff in there like I said 1050 00:44:03,270 --> 00:44:00,520 with it just can't be vetted but it's 1051 00:44:04,530 --> 00:44:03,280 just from reading it and from an 1052 00:44:07,860 --> 00:44:04,540 anecdotal aspect 1053 00:44:11,780 --> 00:44:07,870 it seems pretty legitimate and just the 1054 00:44:14,700 --> 00:44:11,790 pieces alone but they time this space 1055 00:44:16,710 --> 00:44:14,710 the space angle some of it I think is 1056 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:16,720 provable other parts aren't but also 1057 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:18,370 we're doing the you know classified work 1058 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:21,010 and that's the whole Fight Club aspect 1059 00:44:26,130 --> 00:44:22,690 of this thing they can't talk about what 1060 00:44:28,470 --> 00:44:26,140 they're doing and a part of me is like 1061 00:44:30,270 --> 00:44:28,480 well that stinks they should talk about 1062 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:30,280 everything and I look at the invisible 1063 00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:34,290 college and even anyone that has email 1064 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:36,250 studies and things like that that they 1065 00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:37,570 haven't like some public you could say 1066 00:44:42,420 --> 00:44:39,250 it about the glow of course you could 1067 00:44:44,370 --> 00:44:42,430 say it about almost everyone needs and 1068 00:44:46,890 --> 00:44:44,380 that's even the critique until the stars 1069 00:44:48,990 --> 00:44:46,900 Academy overreacted people more 1070 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:49,000 forthcoming transparent but I know that 1071 00:44:52,830 --> 00:44:51,010 they're sitting on stuff also so there's 1072 00:44:54,210 --> 00:44:52,840 two sides to a coin part of it I get you 1073 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:54,220 know upset I'm like hey just release it 1074 00:44:57,750 --> 00:44:56,170 the other part of me is like I'm sure 1075 00:45:00,960 --> 00:44:57,760 that they have great reasons why they 1076 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:00,970 can't display I mean that's time to do 1077 00:45:06,420 --> 00:45:03,610 it or maybe to talk about certain things 1078 00:45:06,780 --> 00:45:06,430 they would mess up their ongoing work on 1079 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:06,790 it 1080 00:45:16,620 --> 00:45:12,970 look in to judge people they should be 1081 00:45:18,390 --> 00:45:16,630 releasing or not everyone does it I do 1082 00:45:21,150 --> 00:45:18,400 it and we all want all the information 1083 00:45:22,950 --> 00:45:21,160 out at all times but at the same time I 1084 00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:22,960 just it's just not how it goes down and 1085 00:45:29,900 --> 00:45:26,730 so the fact I - visible' college aspect 1086 00:45:32,100 --> 00:45:29,910 it's something that's very real and 1087 00:45:35,190 --> 00:45:32,110 dynamic lesotho really nailed that home 1088 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:35,200 in her book and we can hope that 1089 00:45:40,620 --> 00:45:38,890 basically that's more information is 1090 00:45:42,450 --> 00:45:40,630 going to come out and anytime you talk 1091 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:42,460 about something in a book or anywhere 1092 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:42,850 else 1093 00:45:47,610 --> 00:45:44,650 there's a million researchers now 1094 00:45:51,330 --> 00:45:47,620 digging into it and trying to uncover 1095 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:51,340 every secret so it's a lot of the stuff 1096 00:45:54,420 --> 00:45:52,930 and I think you know will come out 1097 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:54,430 eventually a little bit more information 1098 00:46:00,030 --> 00:45:57,130 and eventually about some of the stuff 1099 00:46:02,100 --> 00:46:00,040 yeah this stuff is not the normal thing 1100 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:02,110 people talk about around the water 1101 00:46:07,530 --> 00:46:05,050 cooler it might seem strange strange to 1102 00:46:09,270 --> 00:46:07,540 many but that's just because the 1103 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:09,280 information in the way it's organized I 1104 00:46:14,849 --> 00:46:12,570 think that the the coincidences are 1105 00:46:17,099 --> 00:46:14,859 nothing strange 1106 00:46:19,349 --> 00:46:17,109 and and and a lot of these coincidences 1107 00:46:20,729 --> 00:46:19,359 or synchronicities as they talk about 1108 00:46:23,599 --> 00:46:20,739 them in the book again if nobody's read 1109 00:46:26,249 --> 00:46:23,609 this again like you said not everybody 1110 00:46:29,039 --> 00:46:26,259 agrees with everything and you don't 1111 00:46:30,479 --> 00:46:29,049 have to believe everything in the book 1112 00:46:32,519 --> 00:46:30,489 you don't have to not believe everything 1113 00:46:35,219 --> 00:46:32,529 in the book but it just kind of goes 1114 00:46:38,429 --> 00:46:35,229 into these cosmic synchronicities that 1115 00:46:40,949 --> 00:46:38,439 are utilized possibly and I put that 1116 00:46:43,319 --> 00:46:40,959 pretty broadly by you know larger 1117 00:46:46,169 --> 00:46:43,329 intelligences when you put yourself in 1118 00:46:49,169 --> 00:46:46,179 certain circumstances that other people 1119 00:46:52,019 --> 00:46:49,179 don't and I love that Tyler said that 1120 00:46:55,919 --> 00:46:52,029 his business ventures are cosmically 1121 00:46:59,249 --> 00:46:55,929 ordained I believe he took by Diana if 1122 00:47:01,229 --> 00:46:59,259 I'm not mistaken to the Vatican told her 1123 00:47:02,849 --> 00:47:01,239 to grab a piece of soap again like kind 1124 00:47:05,339 --> 00:47:02,859 of that sort of like that Vatican's soap 1125 00:47:08,429 --> 00:47:05,349 like The Fight Club reference but anyway 1126 00:47:09,989 --> 00:47:08,439 there's a lot of these and we come back 1127 00:47:12,449 --> 00:47:09,999 to this millionaires and billionaires 1128 00:47:16,859 --> 00:47:12,459 and successful innovative scientists 1129 00:47:18,809 --> 00:47:16,869 that have encounters or connections to 1130 00:47:20,519 --> 00:47:18,819 this invisible college and we only call 1131 00:47:22,079 --> 00:47:20,529 it the invisible college because they're 1132 00:47:25,589 --> 00:47:22,089 just not out there like charlatans 1133 00:47:28,979 --> 00:47:25,599 trying to make a penny or a dime every 1134 00:47:31,199 --> 00:47:28,989 chance they get no I think that this is 1135 00:47:32,939 --> 00:47:31,209 a credible space for research and a lot 1136 00:47:35,489 --> 00:47:32,949 of people do and I think there's a lot 1137 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:35,499 of money involved and I think it's 1138 00:47:43,109 --> 00:47:38,890 interesting that the science and the 1139 00:47:46,499 --> 00:47:43,119 religion blurs along with the ufology 1140 00:47:49,259 --> 00:47:46,509 because just the level of science is so 1141 00:47:52,769 --> 00:47:49,269 unique you're talking about things that 1142 00:47:55,079 --> 00:47:52,779 are so above the average intelligence 1143 00:47:57,319 --> 00:47:55,089 level that you know it seems like magic 1144 00:48:00,509 --> 00:47:57,329 really wouldn't you agree 1145 00:48:03,630 --> 00:48:00,519 yeah and you know we're talking about 1146 00:48:05,219 --> 00:48:03,640 disclosure oh this is a big one is one 1147 00:48:07,169 --> 00:48:05,229 serious medical technology which is 1148 00:48:08,609 --> 00:48:07,179 basically implied in the book that came 1149 00:48:10,380 --> 00:48:08,619 from nineteen intelligence and it's 1150 00:48:13,859 --> 00:48:10,390 provable and then that's disclosure 1151 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:13,869 right there and so of course also maybe 1152 00:48:17,969 --> 00:48:15,729 they couldn't say it because it would 1153 00:48:19,919 --> 00:48:17,979 messed up ongoing you know technology 1154 00:48:21,779 --> 00:48:19,929 research and things like that but I mean 1155 00:48:24,029 --> 00:48:21,789 how amazing would it be if everyone 1156 00:48:27,780 --> 00:48:24,039 found out well hey this medical 1157 00:48:30,300 --> 00:48:27,790 technology that's been around forever 1158 00:48:33,030 --> 00:48:30,310 came from somewhere else and you know 1159 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:33,040 there's always rumors about cell phones 1160 00:48:36,690 --> 00:48:34,690 or whatever other technology that uh 1161 00:48:38,730 --> 00:48:36,700 that has been leaked and I don't know if 1162 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:38,740 any of that is true of course there's 1163 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:39,850 been a lot of rumors about that 1164 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:42,490 exceeding technology or if it wasn't 1165 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:45,850 only just kind of regular electronics 1166 00:48:48,630 --> 00:48:47,050 and things like that but what if it was 1167 00:48:50,790 --> 00:48:48,640 also medical technology that helps 1168 00:48:54,390 --> 00:48:50,800 people so to me that's you story is 1169 00:48:56,720 --> 00:48:54,400 probably largely improvable but it's 1170 00:48:59,730 --> 00:48:56,730 just something interesting to ponder and 1171 00:49:01,890 --> 00:48:59,740 if we could somehow proof um you know it 1172 00:49:05,130 --> 00:49:01,900 would be it would be disclosure in 1173 00:49:07,740 --> 00:49:05,140 itself but um everyone always comes up 1174 00:49:09,990 --> 00:49:07,750 with the way to say and they say stuff 1175 00:49:11,820 --> 00:49:10,000 at the same time but um yeah I thought 1176 00:49:12,900 --> 00:49:11,830 the medical technology that they talked 1177 00:49:16,410 --> 00:49:12,910 about of the book was especially 1178 00:49:20,220 --> 00:49:16,420 interesting and even trying to track 1179 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:20,230 down some of that - yeah the medical 1180 00:49:24,510 --> 00:49:22,210 technology and not to get too personal 1181 00:49:26,970 --> 00:49:24,520 because I I'm just trying to like you 1182 00:49:30,270 --> 00:49:26,980 know talk about what's on our minds but 1183 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:30,280 in my book the Utah UFO display I kind 1184 00:49:33,690 --> 00:49:32,170 of go into this a bit I had some 1185 00:49:37,170 --> 00:49:33,700 situations where like what you're 1186 00:49:39,810 --> 00:49:37,180 talking about some of this medical 1187 00:49:44,070 --> 00:49:39,820 technology was used in again the cell 1188 00:49:46,740 --> 00:49:44,080 phone claim into play and the dots were 1189 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:46,750 very easy for me to connect reading 1190 00:49:54,240 --> 00:49:50,170 American cosmic and just because it's 1191 00:49:59,420 --> 00:49:54,250 not the normal stuff that comes up but 1192 00:50:03,330 --> 00:49:59,430 the UFO phenomenon it seems is 1193 00:50:07,220 --> 00:50:03,340 increasingly being kind of brought into 1194 00:50:10,530 --> 00:50:07,230 a strange belief of a draconian 1195 00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:10,540 surveillance state concealing it from 1196 00:50:15,810 --> 00:50:12,730 the public and curiously I believe part 1197 00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:15,820 of it the growth of the the phenomenom 1198 00:50:20,790 --> 00:50:18,250 does kind of it's it's pretty wild that 1199 00:50:22,350 --> 00:50:20,800 how the government how seriously the 1200 00:50:23,820 --> 00:50:22,360 government is taking a lot of these 1201 00:50:26,370 --> 00:50:23,830 things whether you believe the book or 1202 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:26,380 not what are your thoughts on that kind 1203 00:50:37,260 --> 00:50:27,490 of stuff Danny I know that's kind of a 1204 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:37,270 big and wide question but yeah how 1205 00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:39,010 seriously they're looking at it I mean 1206 00:50:41,540 --> 00:50:40,930 they're taking it very seriously which 1207 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:41,550 to me 1208 00:50:47,330 --> 00:50:45,330 tells me that as the public who trust in 1209 00:50:50,450 --> 00:50:47,340 the government we should probably take 1210 00:50:52,370 --> 00:50:50,460 it very seriously as well yeah yeah 1211 00:50:54,770 --> 00:50:52,380 unfortunately what they do is kind of 1212 00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:54,780 behind the scenes and it's probably 1213 00:50:58,940 --> 00:50:57,090 highly classified in a lot of ways but 1214 00:51:00,290 --> 00:50:58,950 I'm convinced that the government has 1215 00:51:04,220 --> 00:51:00,300 been looking at this basically the whole 1216 00:51:06,470 --> 00:51:04,230 time and that's kind of what we do is 1217 00:51:09,860 --> 00:51:06,480 try to prove it and you know thanks to 1218 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:09,870 Elizondo for coming forward we now know 1219 00:51:12,470 --> 00:51:11,370 that there is a useful program we know 1220 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:12,480 that there's actually been three of them 1221 00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:16,130 arguably at least so another is more and 1222 00:51:20,990 --> 00:51:18,570 this was kind of weird about this whole 1223 00:51:23,180 --> 00:51:21,000 thing and the naysayers is that you know 1224 00:51:25,460 --> 00:51:23,190 they were screaming at the government 1225 00:51:26,060 --> 00:51:25,470 and people to come forward and talk 1226 00:51:29,180 --> 00:51:26,070 about it 1227 00:51:32,090 --> 00:51:29,190 Alexander did that and now you know 1228 00:51:33,500 --> 00:51:32,100 there's a sect of people that don't like 1229 00:51:34,940 --> 00:51:33,510 them and don't trust them because either 1230 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:34,950 the government nor the same people that 1231 00:51:38,390 --> 00:51:36,570 have been telling the government to come 1232 00:51:40,850 --> 00:51:38,400 forward so they can't have it both ways 1233 00:51:42,140 --> 00:51:40,860 in there and you know they flip-flop 1234 00:51:45,980 --> 00:51:42,150 like that and it's really unfortunate 1235 00:51:47,330 --> 00:51:45,990 and many of us Pope Alexander has you 1236 00:51:49,250 --> 00:51:47,340 know we hear on things like that and I 1237 00:51:52,310 --> 00:51:49,260 think that's accurate um it's really 1238 00:51:55,220 --> 00:51:52,320 accurate he you know is taking all these 1239 00:51:57,740 --> 00:51:55,230 warrants from all some naysayers and 1240 00:52:00,140 --> 00:51:57,750 debuggers and all he did was come out 1241 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:00,150 and tell the truth but I'm the 1242 00:52:03,230 --> 00:52:01,170 government's been doing this for a 1243 00:52:05,720 --> 00:52:03,240 really long time I'm convinced I'm 1244 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:05,730 convinced that satellites and other 1245 00:52:11,660 --> 00:52:08,970 instrumentation trakula on a pretty 1246 00:52:13,250 --> 00:52:11,670 regular basis you know there's we 1247 00:52:16,270 --> 00:52:13,260 continuously hear about military 1248 00:52:18,410 --> 00:52:16,280 encounters all this stuff's going on and 1249 00:52:21,470 --> 00:52:18,420 we're just not being told about it 1250 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:21,480 unfortunately we can you know speculate 1251 00:52:26,270 --> 00:52:23,610 on why maybe they don't know what's 1252 00:52:28,100 --> 00:52:26,280 going on maybe they're trying to hide 1253 00:52:30,590 --> 00:52:28,110 certain things but it's been happening 1254 00:52:31,910 --> 00:52:30,600 for a long time probably as long as the 1255 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:31,920 United States has been around at least 1256 00:52:38,660 --> 00:52:34,770 since the 40s and I don't think it's 1257 00:52:40,190 --> 00:52:38,670 really stopped at any point and at least 1258 00:52:42,110 --> 00:52:40,200 parts of the government has been paying 1259 00:52:43,940 --> 00:52:42,120 attention and oh it's extremely 1260 00:52:48,230 --> 00:52:43,950 frustrating it's like they're trying to 1261 00:52:49,310 --> 00:52:48,240 I only cover up the subject but it's 1262 00:52:51,980 --> 00:52:49,320 like they're covering up a part of 1263 00:52:55,380 --> 00:52:51,990 nature or a part of science which is 1264 00:52:57,589 --> 00:52:55,390 pretty weird you know I guess we can 1265 00:53:00,059 --> 00:52:57,599 talk about maybe they're doing it for 1266 00:53:01,859 --> 00:53:00,069 for the sovereignty of the country or 1267 00:53:03,390 --> 00:53:01,869 something like that and maybe they're 1268 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:03,400 not gonna release this stuff until our 1269 00:53:07,799 --> 00:53:05,410 backup is it really against the loan you 1270 00:53:10,859 --> 00:53:07,809 know arguably United States is still on 1271 00:53:12,059 --> 00:53:10,869 top we're still the you know biggest 1272 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:12,069 superpower in the world 1273 00:53:15,900 --> 00:53:15,010 so maybe until that gets shaken they're 1274 00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:15,910 just not going to come out with us 1275 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:17,170 because they don't have to I don't know 1276 00:53:22,769 --> 00:53:18,970 it's just a lot of speculation really 1277 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:22,779 but I'm it's really unfortunate and that 1278 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:24,490 at the same time maybe there's been a 1279 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:26,650 change of heart and I see that slowly 1280 00:53:32,460 --> 00:53:30,130 happening now six 2017 the videos being 1281 00:53:35,549 --> 00:53:32,470 released and and some of the other stuff 1282 00:53:36,990 --> 00:53:35,559 you know it's it's really hard to do to 1283 00:53:39,390 --> 00:53:37,000 speculate about what's going on there 1284 00:53:42,180 --> 00:53:39,400 though with some of this coming out but 1285 00:53:43,410 --> 00:53:42,190 I do it anyways I speculate about me we 1286 00:53:45,710 --> 00:53:43,420 know there's people that don't want this 1287 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:45,720 ad in the government because they are 1288 00:53:49,890 --> 00:53:48,490 kind of contradicting what happened with 1289 00:53:52,410 --> 00:53:49,900 a tip and things like that but at the 1290 00:53:53,970 --> 00:53:52,420 same time I assume there's people in 1291 00:53:56,759 --> 00:53:53,980 government I'll then also do want this 1292 00:53:58,019 --> 00:53:56,769 out better staying quiet but and then 1293 00:54:00,180 --> 00:53:58,029 there's other people like Chris Mellon 1294 00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:00,190 who was involved with the government and 1295 00:54:06,950 --> 00:54:03,250 he's been talking the whole time so I'm 1296 00:54:08,849 --> 00:54:06,960 I kind of like maybe not only negative 1297 00:54:11,220 --> 00:54:08,859 opinions in the government about this 1298 00:54:13,349 --> 00:54:11,230 stuff but also positive and without some 1299 00:54:14,430 --> 00:54:13,359 of those positive voices behind the 1300 00:54:16,829 --> 00:54:14,440 scenes maybe none of this would be 1301 00:54:19,140 --> 00:54:16,839 happening but I'm you know the creator 1302 00:54:21,420 --> 00:54:19,150 and other things like that were signed 1303 00:54:22,799 --> 00:54:21,430 so I think two stars Academy not only 1304 00:54:24,690 --> 00:54:22,809 has a bunch of haters in the government 1305 00:54:27,390 --> 00:54:24,700 but they have a bunch of supporters too 1306 00:54:29,069 --> 00:54:27,400 and maybe some of this story will come 1307 00:54:31,140 --> 00:54:29,079 out eventually I don't know but it would 1308 00:54:34,289 --> 00:54:31,150 definitely be an amazing blockbuster 1309 00:54:36,029 --> 00:54:34,299 movie just to hear the politics alone of 1310 00:54:40,980 --> 00:54:36,039 what's going on behind the Saints or let 1311 00:54:42,839 --> 00:54:40,990 alone what we know about that's exactly 1312 00:54:44,940 --> 00:54:42,849 like what I was thinking is what we know 1313 00:54:49,799 --> 00:54:44,950 about and what's really going on 1314 00:54:51,509 --> 00:54:49,809 probably on a daily basis and if it was 1315 00:54:54,329 --> 00:54:51,519 a movie I'm sure we'd all be on the edge 1316 00:54:55,890 --> 00:54:54,339 of our seats unfortunately you know as 1317 00:54:57,059 --> 00:54:55,900 you look into this stuff and I know 1318 00:55:01,170 --> 00:54:57,069 you've seen it Danny 1319 00:55:03,029 --> 00:55:01,180 you start realizing why so many are so 1320 00:55:06,509 --> 00:55:03,039 tight-lipped and it's it's pretty cool 1321 00:55:09,240 --> 00:55:06,519 you kind of have to go through the the 1322 00:55:13,410 --> 00:55:09,250 spin cycle yourself to realize why 1323 00:55:15,390 --> 00:55:13,420 silence is so golden but you know having 1324 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:15,400 done that a few times you start to you 1325 00:55:20,100 --> 00:55:18,970 know get it the at least in in in you 1326 00:55:23,130 --> 00:55:20,110 know the literature that we're talking 1327 00:55:25,830 --> 00:55:23,140 about I'm with you man the TTS a I think 1328 00:55:28,380 --> 00:55:25,840 is you know like any group they're doing 1329 00:55:31,890 --> 00:55:28,390 amazing stuff people are trying to 1330 00:55:34,860 --> 00:55:31,900 nitpick you know like anything anything 1331 00:55:37,710 --> 00:55:34,870 that they don't agree with or and it's 1332 00:55:39,750 --> 00:55:37,720 really it's difficult it's difficult to 1333 00:55:43,290 --> 00:55:39,760 watch but I think they're doing a lot of 1334 00:55:46,550 --> 00:55:43,300 good stuff in like you said they don't 1335 00:55:49,410 --> 00:55:46,560 have endless funds there they're also 1336 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:49,420 blamed for that as well so there really 1337 00:55:53,460 --> 00:55:51,010 no winning you know you either have too 1338 00:55:54,990 --> 00:55:53,470 much money you're not enough bunny you 1339 00:55:58,620 --> 00:55:55,000 can't have total control like the 1340 00:56:01,770 --> 00:55:58,630 government or close to it and then again 1341 00:56:04,460 --> 00:56:01,780 you know we need these people to protect 1342 00:56:07,500 --> 00:56:04,470 us I mean let's face it we really do and 1343 00:56:10,820 --> 00:56:07,510 so I think I think it's it's a it's a 1344 00:56:13,980 --> 00:56:10,830 catch-22 with a lot of people in the UFO 1345 00:56:15,540 --> 00:56:13,990 world and their thoughts I think it's 1346 00:56:18,030 --> 00:56:15,550 just you know it's kind of like an 1347 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:18,040 Occam's razor but you know it's like 1348 00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:18,970 life itself 1349 00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:21,130 be aware that stuff is happening you're 1350 00:56:27,930 --> 00:56:25,530 not aware of there yeah oh yeah I think 1351 00:56:31,890 --> 00:56:27,940 what's also interesting about this whole 1352 00:56:34,980 --> 00:56:31,900 thing is we don't know what these 1353 00:56:36,780 --> 00:56:34,990 politicians now and in some of them we 1354 00:56:37,740 --> 00:56:36,790 can prove that have been briefed because 1355 00:56:40,050 --> 00:56:37,750 they've gone on the record saying 1356 00:56:41,850 --> 00:56:40,060 they've been briefed but there's also a 1357 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:41,860 lot of evidence to say that they really 1358 00:56:46,830 --> 00:56:43,210 don't know what's going on at this I 1359 00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:46,840 mean don't know what's going on I laid 1360 00:56:49,740 --> 00:56:48,370 back to the Admiral with some document 1361 00:56:51,660 --> 00:56:49,750 he didn't really know what was going on 1362 00:56:54,570 --> 00:56:51,670 he was surprised by the law and then 1363 00:56:56,580 --> 00:56:54,580 also um John McCain's I'm services 1364 00:56:59,100 --> 00:56:56,590 committee when John McCain was still 1365 00:57:00,810 --> 00:56:59,110 alive when the a tip story broke John 1366 00:57:04,230 --> 00:57:00,820 McCain asked for all products produced 1367 00:57:06,150 --> 00:57:04,240 by a tech and they were sent the Defense 1368 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:06,160 Intelligence reference documents 38 of 1369 00:57:10,110 --> 00:57:08,410 them but those were only the scientific 1370 00:57:12,420 --> 00:57:10,120 documents and that was none of the UFO 1371 00:57:15,540 --> 00:57:12,430 studies so basically they were lied to 1372 00:57:17,220 --> 00:57:15,550 in my view I've been trying to kind of 1373 00:57:19,590 --> 00:57:17,230 prove that in a blog or something but 1374 00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:19,600 I'm kind of research that right now but 1375 00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:21,730 I'm basically doing Academy 1376 00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:23,530 he was lied to when they were given that 1377 00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:25,810 I don't know if it was some technicality 1378 00:57:30,300 --> 00:57:28,090 that I'm that they're able to say that 1379 00:57:32,370 --> 00:57:30,310 but it's like he asked for all products 1380 00:57:34,770 --> 00:57:32,380 produced by a tip and he only got those 1381 00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:34,780 the science document he got none of the 1382 00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:37,690 UFO research and none of the UFO studies 1383 00:57:43,230 --> 00:57:40,810 so that's telling to me and it's this 1384 00:57:46,530 --> 00:57:43,240 huge thing is the government magnets 1385 00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:46,540 like I don't know what whatever I know 1386 00:57:49,980 --> 00:57:48,370 is just because there's something locked 1387 00:57:51,990 --> 00:57:49,990 up in Lockheed or some special access 1388 00:57:54,390 --> 00:57:52,000 program we don't know if the politicians 1389 00:57:55,980 --> 00:57:54,400 know about it you know we don't know who 1390 00:57:58,530 --> 00:57:55,990 seemed like you know the Trump has been 1391 00:58:01,940 --> 00:57:58,540 briefed have they seen the longer videos 1392 00:58:04,020 --> 00:58:01,950 the season go denied exist as the 1393 00:58:05,490 --> 00:58:04,030 Senators and things like that that of MU 1394 00:58:07,590 --> 00:58:05,500 brief that they seem the longer videos 1395 00:58:10,530 --> 00:58:07,600 so it's really convoluted and really 1396 00:58:14,570 --> 00:58:10,540 confusing and it's unfortunate and it's 1397 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:14,580 like to the Stars is advocating for 1398 00:58:19,580 --> 00:58:17,290 politicians and people like that to 1399 00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:19,590 understand more but at the same time 1400 00:58:24,060 --> 00:58:21,490 everything's wrapped up in a special 1401 00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:24,070 access program so it's just really 1402 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:25,690 confusing I'm not part of the government 1403 00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:27,010 and I don't understand it as well as 1404 00:58:32,070 --> 00:58:29,650 some others that have been that are 1405 00:58:34,410 --> 00:58:32,080 career politicians or career government 1406 00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:34,420 employees but uh it's unfortunate like 1407 00:58:37,590 --> 00:58:35,530 you were saying earlier everything's 1408 00:58:38,670 --> 00:58:37,600 stove-piped so we're just trying to 1409 00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:38,680 break through some of that and I think 1410 00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:40,210 to the stars is also talked about that 1411 00:58:44,010 --> 00:58:42,250 too we need to change some of the laws 1412 00:58:49,170 --> 00:58:44,020 and some of the secrecy that's involved 1413 00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:49,180 I agree and it you can't you can't look 1414 00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:51,250 a gift torts in the mouth when it comes 1415 00:58:57,510 --> 00:58:55,210 to information and it is it's pretty 1416 00:58:59,850 --> 00:58:57,520 amazing the disclosure that we're 1417 00:59:02,400 --> 00:58:59,860 getting is stuff that I 1418 00:59:03,930 --> 00:59:02,410 I never really to be honest when I was a 1419 00:59:07,620 --> 00:59:03,940 kid I never really dreamed we would see 1420 00:59:09,450 --> 00:59:07,630 and it's pretty cool stuff Danny I can't 1421 00:59:11,790 --> 00:59:09,460 thank you enough for coming on the 1422 00:59:13,260 --> 00:59:11,800 podcast where can people keep up with 1423 00:59:15,450 --> 00:59:13,270 what you're doing I know you're super 1424 00:59:17,100 --> 00:59:15,460 busy with this and we're tell people 1425 00:59:18,350 --> 00:59:17,110 about your website and what you have 1426 00:59:21,420 --> 00:59:18,360 going on 1427 00:59:24,390 --> 00:59:21,430 silver record dot-com is a website Silv 1428 00:59:26,790 --> 00:59:24,400 a records at home there's a website I'm 1429 00:59:28,500 --> 00:59:26,800 always following leads and the great 1430 00:59:30,690 --> 00:59:28,510 thing about it is it's not just a couple 1431 00:59:32,210 --> 00:59:30,700 of us anymore every time there's a media 1432 00:59:35,390 --> 00:59:32,220 wave like this more mainstream 1433 00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:35,400 choice enter the fray they're not always 1434 00:59:40,970 --> 00:59:37,050 as up on everything 1435 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:40,980 um not as many sources as we do but the 1436 00:59:44,839 --> 00:59:43,050 readership is sometimes larger if it's a 1437 00:59:46,250 --> 00:59:44,849 giant paper so every time there's 1438 00:59:50,750 --> 00:59:46,260 immediately but everything just gets 1439 00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:50,760 bigger I'm able to expand my source 1440 00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:53,130 space and now I'm also able to speak to 1441 00:59:56,630 --> 00:59:54,450 more mainstream journalists I was 1442 00:59:59,839 --> 00:59:56,640 quoting that quoted in a task and 1443 01:00:03,560 --> 00:59:59,849 purpose which is a military publication 1444 01:00:05,359 --> 01:00:03,570 basically about the videos but um my 1445 01:00:07,250 --> 01:00:05,369 lives on the silver record calm on all 1446 01:00:09,550 --> 01:00:07,260 social media silver record except 1447 01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:09,560 Instagram which is Danny silver record 1448 01:00:15,140 --> 01:00:12,570 and I'm just going to keep doing this 1449 01:00:17,990 --> 01:00:15,150 and every time there's a media wave we 1450 01:00:19,940 --> 01:00:18,000 just get more energy and not only that 1451 01:00:22,460 --> 01:00:19,950 but the unidentified TV show is about to 1452 01:00:23,900 --> 01:00:22,470 come out in about a month so we're 1453 01:00:26,150 --> 01:00:23,910 excited about that and there's a shot of 1454 01:00:27,710 --> 01:00:26,160 forward progress and nobody stopping 1455 01:00:30,349 --> 01:00:27,720 anytime soon not even the count of 1456 01:00:32,290 --> 01:00:30,359 viruses is stopping this forward 1457 01:00:35,180 --> 01:00:32,300 progress so it's going to continue 1458 01:00:38,270 --> 01:00:35,190 that's the truth and you're the man your 1459 01:00:39,980 --> 01:00:38,280 website is the best if anybody wants to 1460 01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:39,990 find out what's going on it's like kind 1461 01:00:46,609 --> 01:00:42,330 of a one-stop shop in my opinion and 1462 01:00:48,710 --> 01:00:46,619 it's it's on point all legit information 1463 01:00:50,930 --> 01:00:48,720 can't thank you enough Danny and I hope 1464 01:00:53,630 --> 01:00:50,940 to talk to you soon until next time I'm 1465 01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:53,640 Ann take care I appreciate it 1466 01:00:58,730 --> 01:00:56,010 well there you have it ladies and 1467 01:01:02,730 --> 01:00:58,740 gentlemen nobody breaks it down like 1468 01:01:09,490 --> 01:01:06,940 such a great guy if you haven't checked 1469 01:01:16,620 --> 01:01:09,500 it out what are you doing what are you 1470 01:01:24,690 --> 01:01:16,630 doing check it out Silva record dot-com 1471 01:01:27,730 --> 01:01:24,700 s il VA r ec o Rd dot-com 1472 01:01:30,940 --> 01:01:27,740 I'm really hoping all of you are doing 1473 01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:30,950 well out there all of you are surviving 1474 01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:34,970 this coronavirus Kovan 19 scare pandemic 1475 01:01:39,220 --> 01:01:37,010 plan Demick whatever you want to call it 1476 01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:39,230 whatever side you are on of this fence 1477 01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:42,170 is it the real thing I don't know is it 1478 01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:42,730 real 1479 01:01:49,780 --> 01:01:47,450 absolutely the fear is probably the 1480 01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:49,790 scariest thing of all and the fear is 1481 01:01:56,260 --> 01:01:52,970 what has really taken hold of our 1482 01:02:00,070 --> 01:01:56,270 liberties freedoms and delve to blow to 1483 01:02:02,980 --> 01:02:00,080 our economy anyway I'm hoping all of you 1484 01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:02,990 out there also subscribe and share 1485 01:02:10,599 --> 01:02:06,130 episodes of hero paranormal on YouTube 1486 01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:10,609 that seriously helps me get new eyes on 1487 01:02:18,089 --> 01:02:14,770 these subjects do your part 1488 01:02:20,950 --> 01:02:18,099 also check out hero paranormal comm 1489 01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:20,960 become a patron as little as a dollar a 1490 01:02:33,740 --> 01:02:31,830 we have a premium level coming soon not 1491 01:02:37,820 --> 01:02:33,750 sure what to call it 1492 01:02:40,830 --> 01:02:37,830 we will we will figure that out together 1493 01:02:43,860 --> 01:02:40,840 until next time keep your eyes to the 1494 01:02:46,990 --> 01:02:43,870 skies feet on the ground but don't 1495 01:02:56,010 --> 01:02:47,000 forget to take a look around